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    Re: Japanese Gardern Variations

    Interesting John...I am about to try something similar on a tree that I captured the past weekend.

    I do like the line drawing effect but find the grays a bit to bland/flat. Not sure how to remedy that though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneS View Post
    Interesting John...I am about to try something similar on a tree that I captured the past weekend.

    I do like the line drawing effect but find the grays a bit to bland/flat. Not sure how to remedy that though.
    Hi Shane, thanks for commenting. The grays were the first thing I noticed as odd looking, no matter how much warmth or fill light I tried to add, the grays would not get much better. If I shot with the stones backlit the grays would get even worse. I might try working on the shadows more in the post-processing steps.

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    Re: Japanese Gardern Variations

    How about trying on different sort of day for the light and the clouds to incorporate with it? Just asking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by IzzieK View Post
    How about trying on different sort of day for the light and the clouds to incorporate with it? Just asking...
    Definitely worth a shot. What inspired me to do this particular shot, I was shooting a vivid red fire truck parked in its station and there were clouds up above. I converted using this filter and thought it made a pretty standard image more colorful and animated. When I saw the garden later in the day, I knew I wanted to try it for the effects on the blues and reds. I did try a similar shot months ago taken in early morning light, I will link to it if I can locate it.

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    Hi John I like the treatment, I think your horizon needs levelling. If you used a special effect in PP for such a look I don't know if the grey colour could be changed individually with a hue and saturation layer (or a selective color layer) I would be happy to see if you could do something about it with PP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowman View Post
    Definitely worth a shot. What inspired me to do this particular shot, I was shooting a vivid red fire truck parked in its station and there were clouds up above. I converted using this filter and thought it made a pretty standard image more colorful and animated. When I saw the garden later in the day, I knew I wanted to try it for the effects on the blues and reds. I did try a similar shot months ago taken in early morning light, I will link to it if I can locate it.
    Izzie,

    This set had fewer colors to render, lowlight setting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bnnrcn View Post
    Hi John I like the treatment, I think your horizon needs levelling. If you used a special effect in PP for such a look I don't know if the grey colour could be changed individually with a hue and saturation layer (or a selective color layer) I would be happy to see if you could do something about it with PP.
    Hi Binnur, this particular shot was rendered in camera, I shot the original (RAW) and used the camera's built-in feature to create this jpeg. I'm sure I could do something with the RAW image although as the filtered colors are already gray, any alteration would be a warmer hue of what is presented.

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    Re: Japanese Gardern Variations

    I quite like this and occasionally have a play. Something you can try to produce a similar effect but which gives you more control is the following but this assume you are using PS:
    1. Duplicate the layer.
    2. Apply Filter/Stylise/Find edges to the top layer.
    3. Convert the top layer to Mono.
    4. Use Curves to produce a very high contrast mono image.
    5. Blend the two layer using Multiply or Soft light, which ever works best.

    The additional control comes from the selection of the blending mode, the degree of contrast you create in the mono layer, the opacity of the mono layer and occasionally you get a more pleasing effect by inverting the mono layer.

    Have a play but more importantly have fun.

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    Re: Japanese Gardern Variations

    Quote Originally Posted by John 2 View Post
    I quite like this and occasionally have a play. Something you can try to produce a similar effect but which gives you more control is the following but this assume you are using PS:
    1. Duplicate the layer.
    2. Apply Filter/Stylise/Find edges to the top layer.
    3. Convert the top layer to Mono.
    4. Use Curves to produce a very high contrast mono image.
    5. Blend the two layer using Multiply or Soft light, which ever works best.

    The additional control comes from the selection of the blending mode, the degree of contrast you create in the mono layer, the opacity of the mono layer and occasionally you get a more pleasing effect by inverting the mono layer.

    Have a play but more importantly have fun.
    John, thanks for the comments and alternate method. I'll give it a go.

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    Re: Japanese Gardern Variations

    Works well for architectural shots.

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    Re: Japanese Gardern Variations

    Interesting shot, John. Looks like you had some fun doing the PP version. Nice job!

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    Hi John,

    This is very interesting. I like the drawing effect on this 2nd image. The details stand out so beautifully.

    My only thoughts are that I wonder why the water is yellow instead of blue or grey with perhaps a hint of yellow if it is from the reflections. It might also look nice in B&W ie like a charcoal drawing. Is this artistic thing done by your camera or post processing?

    I'm simply curious. Thank you.

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    Re: Japanese Gardern Variations

    Quote Originally Posted by Otavio View Post
    Interesting shot, John. Looks like you had some fun doing the PP version. Nice job!
    Thanks Otavio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christina S View Post
    Hi John,

    This is very interesting. I like the drawing effect on this 2nd image. The details stand out so beautifully.

    My only thoughts are that I wonder why the water is yellow instead of blue or grey with perhaps a hint of yellow if it is from the reflections. It might also look nice in B&W ie like a charcoal drawing. Is this artistic thing done by your camera or post processing?

    I'm simply curious. Thank you.
    Hi Christina,

    Thanks for the comments. I believe the water is reflecting the sky, so no real intense blues, also if you look near the land it has a small amount of blue while directly beneath the boat it is muddy looking water.

    This was converted from the original RAW file in-camera, it can also be done in Elements. I will look into doing a charcoal version.

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    Re: Japanese Gardern Variations

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    Nice. Perhaps crop 1/3 from top. Or just clone out the tree.
    clone out cars/bridge, house(?) . Crop off a little of the water below.

    Sort of get the viewer's attention to the stone lamp on the right.

    HTH

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    Re: Japanese Gardern Variations

    Quote Originally Posted by nimitzbenedicto View Post
    Nice. Perhaps crop 1/3 from top. Or just clone out the tree.
    clone out cars/bridge, house(?) . Crop off a little of the water below.

    Sort of get the viewer's attention to the stone lamp on the right.

    HTH
    Victor, thanks for the comments and suggestions.

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    Hi John,

    Thank you for sharing. Of course, I don't truly know but for some reason I see this image as a beautiful charcoal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowman View Post
    Hi Christina,

    Thanks for the comments. I believe the water is reflecting the sky, so no real intense blues, also if you look near the land it has a small amount of blue while directly beneath the boat it is muddy looking water.

    This was converted from the original RAW file in-camera, it can also be done in Elements. I will look into doing a charcoal version.

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    Re: Light of the Bay

    Quote Originally Posted by Christina S View Post
    Hi John,

    Thank you for sharing. Of course, I don't truly know but for some reason I see this image as a beautiful charcoal.
    I've been trying to get the hang of LR the past few weeks, I'll run it through Elements and post.

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