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    Re: 7d ii

    7D Mk II AF Guidebook
    http://www.usa.canon.com/CUSA/assets...USA_9-2014.pdf

    Only f/2.8 lenses and faster are capable of using all 65 High Precision AF points.

    The manual lists which lenses are compatible with which AF points / modes.

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    Re: 7d ii

    I pre ordered and am on the waiting list. This camera sounds awesome for 80% of what I shoot (Birds) and my current camera (70D) will handle the rest perfectly (Landscape, etc).

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    Re: 7d ii

    Quote Originally Posted by FootLoose View Post
    7D Mk II AF Guidebook
    http://www.usa.canon.com/CUSA/assets...USA_9-2014.pdf

    Only f/2.8 lenses and faster are capable of using all 65 High Precision AF points.

    The manual lists which lenses are compatible with which AF points / modes.
    Greg, thanks for providing the link. I managed to download the file to my desktop but it won't open on my iPad without a password. Any ideas?

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    Sorry, Bruce, I had no trouble at all. I simply went to the Canon USA site, typed '7D' into the search box there, and then clicked on the link to 'brochures and manuals'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Pearl View Post
    One thing to note is you only get 10fps if you're shooting at 1/1000s or faster and the lens must be wide open....which is a bit weird.
    I had not heard to those limitations on the 10 fps but, I would guess that the wide open requirement is because the lens cannot stop down for the shot and the reopen at 10 FPS. The 1/1,000 second requirement is also probably because of mechanical limitations.

    OTOH... My 8 FPS of the Canon 7D Mk-1 doesn't limit my shooting to any appreciable and noticeable degree. In fact, I often use the slower burst mode when shooting! Additionally, the 7D mk-1 which had one of the best auto-focus systems in the Canon line of cameras, did not quit autofocusing on the day that the Mk-2 was introduced...

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    Everyone's getting excited about the number of AF points and burst rates, (and that is what Canon seem to be going big on in its marketing), but for me the USP is full weathersealing at that price. Put on the 'L' lenses and you could take it for a swim.

    Have downloaded the manual and am ploughing through it to get an idea of what it does and how.

    Should I order? Should I not? Oh, decisions, decisions!!

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    Don't tell me that YOU believe in the Loch Ness monster too, or why else would you crave this?

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    Don't tell me that YOU believe in the Loch Ness monster too, or why else would you crave this?
    Not sure I follow your thinking Charles. I'm taking it that you're suggesting it's a bit silly to crave the 7D MkII. Or is it the fact that I rate weathersealing highly that you are questioning?

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    Donald,

    I have offended you, and for that I apologize unreservedly. Clearly my attempt at humour is not appreciated, or wanted. The comment I made was the result of a thought that came to mind when you suggested taking the camera for a swim. I do not judge anyone's choice of gear, or their reasons for having it.

    Sorry Donald.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Everyone's getting excited about the number of AF points and burst rates...
    The illustrations of the 65 AF points is pretty impressive but I wonder how useful it would be to me. Quite possibly I would use the different zones for a while - perhaps until the novelty wore off - and then resort to the centre point and focus&recompose. I rarely use any of the other FP on the 600D but when I do, I usually forget to change it back to the centre for the next scene and then either wonder why the camera can't achieve focus, or why so many photos are out of focus when I download them.

    I suspect I may not be intelligent enough to operate the 7D II.

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    Re: 7d ii

    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Everyone's getting excited about the number of AF points and burst rates, (and that is what Canon seem to be going big on in its marketing), but for me the USP is full weathersealing at that price. Put on the 'L' lenses and you could take it for a swim.

    Have downloaded the manual and am ploughing through it to get an idea of what it does and how.

    Should I order? Should I not? Oh, decisions, decisions!!
    Personally I wouldn't buy any camera until dpreview has got their sticky hands on it. Otherwise it's just a case of choosing on the basis of an add man's claims which are always designed to attract and don't usually mention any bad points.

    They have done a preview so the full review should be all that far away now.

    Edit - just what is the reason for the rush?

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    Looking at the spec it looks like -3EV for focus limiit which is good.
    Note battery life is only 690 shots despite a new battery, is this with GPS or is the new dual processor more power hungry?
    Note choice of two focus screens - are they user changeable?

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    The illustrations of the 65 AF points is pretty impressive but I wonder how useful it would be to me.
    It all depends on what and how one shoots. I have had the 5DIII for about a year. It has 61 points, 41 of which are cross-point. What I have found in practice is that I rarely use the fancier options because I don't generally shoot things that call for its advanced tracking options. However, now that I have high-quality off-center AF points, I use them all the time. For example, when I am shooting candids of people, I select the highest point in both landscape and portrait modes. (The 5D3, remembers these when you rotate the camera, so I expect the 7DII will also.) That does away with most focus-and-recompose shooting.

    If I did shot sports, I suspect I would use more of the complexity of the system. I recently photographed a marathon, and for that, I did use some of the more complex options.

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    Re: 7d ii

    Quote Originally Posted by ajohnw View Post
    Personally I wouldn't buy any camera until dpreview has got their sticky hands on it.-
    But I think you have to accept, John, that not everyone feels the need to have a DP Review in front of them before being able to make an informed decision. Me - I have no particular views one way or the other. But a number of well respected figures in photo-land have already published views in which they sing the praises of the 7D MkIIs that they have road-tested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    But I think you have to accept, John, that not everyone feels the need to have a DP Review in front of them before being able to make an informed decision. Me - I have no particular views one way or the other. But a number of well respected figures in photo-land have already published views in which they sing the praises of the 7D MkIIs that they have road-tested.
    I suppose I can accept that some stick clear of them but as reviews go they have both the technical aspects and the have gone out and used it views so people can form their own opinion in the latter area - how they feel about the photographers pluses and minuses. There usually are both and in some cases there is no doubt that the reviewer is struggling to find negatives.

    Afraid I can't really see any need to rush. People have generally been using their current camera for some time. A month or so to allow the dust to settle makes more sense than pre orders to me as I should be then be able to make a more informed decision. On the other hand I bought something none photographic the other day that was at a special introductory price. That is worthwhile as far as I am concerned - it's done to overcome any doubts I might have about the equipment I bought. Some how I can't see camera manufacturers and retailers doing the same thing as there are a lot of must haves about so there is no need to pass on any effective savings the retailer is making as stock goes out immediately. At least it's not as bad as some cars. The waiting list is so long that people can sell them for more than they paid immediately they received them.

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    Re: 7d ii

    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    I read, did I not, that it's fully weather-sealed? Nice. As one who is often out and about when the weather is less-than-sunny, that would be an attraction.
    Canon sites say this about the weather resistance - "Not recommended to use in the rain".

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