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    Dundas Square

    I'd be interested in opinions of this image. The purpose in taking the image was to test ISO highs and post-processing corrections. I could have opened up the lens to 5.6 max.
    Dundas Square

    f/6.7, ISO 1000, 1/125sec.

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    Hey John. the exif says:
    EXIFX
    Camera: Nikon D5200
    Lens: 18-55 mm f/3.5-5.6 Shot at 55 mm
    Exposure: Auto exposure, Shutter priority AE, 1/125 sec, f/6.7, ISO 1000
    Date: August 3, 2014 6:59:23AM
    Software: Adobe Photoshop Elements 12.0 Windows
    Field Of View: 36.2 deg
    File: 1,092 × 1,599 JPEG (1.7 megapixels,

    If this was an ISO test, it is conclusive: performs well at 1000 ISO
    Colours: magenta cast

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    Re: Dundas Square

    John,

    For an ISO test I see no concerns and would suspect that the results give you confidence to know what you can achieve as an end result with this ISO in the future.

    Interestingly, I am also pondering over high ISO results at present following my marathon shoot. I shot many in Jpeg format only at an ISO that I was certainly expecting noise to be a factor in the results knowing the performance of my D300.

    Of the batch the below Jpeg image was shot at ISO1800 (highest of the lot), 1/1000s, f/5.6 and has only had my standard sharpening undertaken to it, nothing else.

    I'm asking myself are the Jpegs from camera giving better high ISO results than I can achieve in PP from a RAW?

    Admittedly IQ is not quite so important in images such as this and all images were well exposed.

    Dundas Square

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    Re: Dundas Square

    Quote Originally Posted by Kodiak View Post

    Hey John. the exif says:
    EXIFX
    Camera: Nikon D5200
    Lens: 18-55 mm f/3.5-5.6 Shot at 55 mm
    Exposure: Auto exposure, Shutter priority AE, 1/125 sec, f/6.7, ISO 1000
    Date: August 3, 2014 6:59:23AM
    Software: Adobe Photoshop Elements 12.0 Windows
    Field Of View: 36.2 deg
    File: 1,092 × 1,599 JPEG (1.7 megapixels,

    If this was an ISO test, it is conclusive: performs well at 1000 ISO
    Colours: magenta cast
    I think that you have a very usable ISO 1,000 camera, especially when you are not shooting dark areas. I tried this image with NIK Viveza-II and modified it two different ways to reduce or eliminate the magenta cast.

    1. I increased the green slider a bit
    2. I reduced both the red and blue sliders a bit.

    Both techniques seemed to work. However, I think that I had more control reducing the red and blue sliders. The magenta cast is not necessarily from an over blue and an over red in the same proportions...

    Piggy-backing on the above...

    Although I can detect EXIF information when I use Mozilla-Firefox as my browser; I cannot detect it when using Google Chrome. I wonder how I could get the EXIF data when using Google Chrome....

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    Re: Dundas Square

    Quote Originally Posted by Kodiak View Post

    Hey John. the exif says:
    EXIFX
    Camera: Nikon D5200
    Lens: 18-55 mm f/3.5-5.6 Shot at 55 mm
    Exposure: Auto exposure, Shutter priority AE, 1/125 sec, f/6.7, ISO 1000
    Date: August 3, 2014 6:59:23AM
    Software: Adobe Photoshop Elements 12.0 Windows
    Field Of View: 36.2 deg
    File: 1,092 × 1,599 JPEG (1.7 megapixels,

    If this was an ISO test, it is conclusive: performs well at 1000 ISO
    Colours: magenta cast
    Kodiak,

    Thanks for the comments, I've been told the camera performs very well up to ISO 1600 (independent reviews-3200 by the manufacturer), always like to test the limits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stagecoach View Post
    John,

    For an ISO test I see no concerns and would suspect that the results give you confidence to know what you can achieve as an end result with this ISO in the future.

    Interestingly, I am also pondering over high ISO results at present following my marathon shoot. I shot many in Jpeg format only at an ISO that I was certainly expecting noise to be a factor in the results knowing the performance of my D300.

    Of the batch the below Jpeg image was shot at ISO1800 (highest of the lot), 1/1000s, f/5.6 and has only had my standard sharpening undertaken to it, nothing else.

    I'm asking myself are the Jpegs from camera giving better high ISO results than I can achieve in PP from a RAW?

    Admittedly IQ is not quite so important in images such as this and all images were well exposed.

    Dundas Square
    Nice performance with noise, I've yet to compare RAW vs jpeg regarding noise performance; sounds like a good challenge but wouldn't try it in a lowlight setting. Well I might just to see what occurs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpcrowe View Post
    I think that you have a very usable ISO 1,000 camera, especially when you are not shooting dark areas. I tried this image with NIK Viveza-II and modified it two different ways to reduce or eliminate the magenta cast.

    1. I increased the green slider a bit
    2. I reduced both the red and blue sliders a bit.

    Both techniques seemed to work. However, I think that I had more control reducing the red and blue sliders. The magenta cast is not necessarily from an over blue and an over red in the same proportions...

    Piggy-backing on the above...

    Although I can detect EXIF information when I use Mozilla-Firefox as my browser; I cannot detect it when using Google Chrome. I wonder how I could get the EXIF data when using Google Chrome....
    Hi Richard,

    Thanks for the comments. Your images weren't attached.

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    Re: Dundas Square

    Quote Originally Posted by rpcrowe View Post
    Although I can detect EXIF information when I use Mozilla-Firefox as my browser; I cannot detect it when using Google Chrome. I wonder how I could get the EXIF data when using Google Chrome....
    Richard,

    I'm using Chrome at the moment and have loaded 'Opanda IExif' ver 2.3 to enable reading the Exif but it means you have to save the file to view the data. There was another download where you put the cursor over any web image and basic Exif was shown but have forgotten the name of it.

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    Re: Dundas Square

    Quote Originally Posted by Kodiak View Post

    Hey John. the exif says:
    EXIFX
    Camera: Nikon D5200
    Lens: 18-55 mm f/3.5-5.6 Shot at 55 mm
    Exposure: Auto exposure, Shutter priority AE, 1/125 sec, f/6.7, ISO 1000
    Date: August 3, 2014 6:59:23AM
    Software: Adobe Photoshop Elements 12.0 Windows
    Field Of View: 36.2 deg
    File: 1,092 × 1,599 JPEG (1.7 megapixels,

    If this was an ISO test, it is conclusive: performs well at 1000 ISO
    Colours: magenta cast
    I did a color gamut correction (soft proofing) using LR, I'm sure there are other ways to do the same, but using LR soft proofing showed out-of-gamut colors on the large vase and a few other areas (the striped shirt).

    Dundas Square

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    Re: Dundas Square

    In addition to the very slight magenta cast, the saturation of the reds and orange seems very strong.

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    Re: Dundas Square

    Quote Originally Posted by pnodrog View Post
    In addition to the very slight magenta cast, the saturation of the reds and orange seems very strong.
    L. Paul,

    Perhaps I need another way of evaluating, in LR out-of-gamut warning only evaluates colors that will supposedly not print correctly or look good on the web.

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    Re: Dundas Square

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowman View Post
    L. Paul,

    Perhaps I need another way of evaluating, in LR out-of-gamut warning only evaluates colors that will supposedly not print correctly or look good on the web.
    Calibrate your monitor and trust your eyes....

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    Re: Dundas Square

    Out of interest I tweaked in LR (as it turns out a large tweak) just to see what look reasonably correct to my eyes on my monitor. I have not worried about looking at out-of-gamet warnings.
    Adjustments were:

    Colour temp +6
    Tint -9
    Blacks +27

    Saturation
    Red -40
    Orange -20

    Luminance
    Red -50
    Orange -20

    As I was not there I have no knowledge of the actual colours and have just adjusted so it looks more realistic to me.... goodness knows how my reality compares to the rest of you.

    Dundas Square


    P.S. Anyway it is obvious that your camera is fine at ISO 1000
    Last edited by pnodrog; 8th October 2014 at 09:40 AM.

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    Re: Dundas Square


    YES! …that's more like it.

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    Re: Dundas Square

    Quote Originally Posted by pnodrog View Post
    Out of interest I tweaked in LR (as it turns out a large tweak) just to see what look reasonably correct to my eyes on my monitor. I have not worried about looking at out-of-gamet warnings.
    Adjustments were:

    Colour temp +6
    Tint -9
    Blacks +27

    Saturation
    Red -40
    Orange -20

    Luminance
    Red -50
    Orange -20

    As I was not there I have no knowledge of the actual colours and have just adjusted so it looks more realistic to me.... goodness knows how my reality compares to the rest of you.

    Dundas Square


    P.S. Anyway it is obvious that your camera is fine at ISO 1000
    L. Paul,

    Thanks for the tips and edit.

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