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    Re: Fly Mix

    Quote Originally Posted by deetheturk View Post
    Thank's Dan, I will have a look at that site later.

    Normally I use exactly the same rig as you Dan, but decided to have a go with the 5d, I cannot remember just how many tubes I used for these images only that I started with the 36mm and played about with the other two, sorry

    As for sharpening I also use LR, as you know every image is different but as a rule of thumb I start with NR at 30% then Sharpening 70%, Radius between 1 and 1.4 followed with Detail between 25 and 35 again depending on image!

    Hope this helps bud
    David,

    Many thanks. This will get me back to playing with the radius.

    I virtually never use noise reduction. I find it isn't necessary at low ISOs on a crop (100 and 200 on my 50D; I haven't yet decided for my 7D) or up to 800 on the 5D3. What I do to avoid noise in the smooth areas is to apply a lot of masking. For bugs, I typically end up masking in the range of 45-65%. You probably know this, but if you hold down the alt key (or whatever is the equivalent on a Mac) while you move the masking slider, you get a gray-and-black rendition that shows exactly what areas are masked.

    Re which body: in rough numbers, the sensor of the crop is 38% of the area of the FF sensor. That means that a crop of a 5Ds image to the 7D dimensions will have 22.1 x .38 = 8.4 MP, just under half the number of pixels as the 7DI. So, you need a lot more magnification to get the same number of pixels on the bug with the 5D3. So what I have been doing for now is that I leave my 7D set up for bugs, with a macro lens, usually a 36mm tube, and my awkward home-made flash bracket and diffuser in place. That way, I can just grab it whenever I see bugs, without spending 5 minutes assembling all the stuff. On the other hand, the 5D3's image is better in other respects, and a longer set of tubes would make up a lot of the difference.

    Dan
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    Re: Fly Mix

    Cheers Matt, thanks for commenting mate!

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    Re: Fly Mix

    No problem Dan, there is never any visible noise in the images as you say due to the low ISOs used, I just use it as a precaution and it kinda works for me

    Like yourself I usually have my 7d rigged up for macro but decided to put my 100-400 mk1 on it to it for a play, hence these images on the 5d, which I have been pleasantly surprised with I also use the masking sliders that you mentioned, a neat little trick!

    Looking forward to see if this makes any difference for you.

    Cheers David

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