The Arcade........

[just me]

Hi Dicky......I thank you too !!!!!!! ........

Greetings,
Griddi......

[Dave Humphries]

Hi Griddi,

The ND filter won't have the same effect as a CPL (Circular PoLarising) at all.

I'm not familiar with your cameras and their lenses, it may be that you could buy one CPL filter, for the one with the largest diameter front element, then use step up ring(s) to make it fit the smaller diameter lens.

Dave

[just me]

Leo.....Thank YOU .....

Griddi.....

[Manfred M]

Griddi - the ND filter reduces all the light entering the camera. This is useful in situations where you want to shoot with a wider open aperture setting than normal for a given ISO setting and shutter speed. This is not something that you would likely want in this image as you are going for maximum depth of field.

Using a polarizer can be used to cut glare from reflections off non-metallic surfaces, but will increase your exposure by around 1-1/2 stops. In this shot you are already shooting wide open at f/2.0 at 1/60th sec at ISO 250, so reducing your light hitting the sensor will have other unintended side effects that might impact the shot (if you were shooting with a tripod, this would be different, but many places are not going to permit that).

I'd have to do some testing, but with the fairly wide set of angles you are would be trying to reduce the reflections from, so I don't think a single exposure is going to work. The complexity of building up and combining in post would be a lot of work.

[IzzieK]

I was thinking of the same as Leo...I kept forgetting that it is called "arcade" over there even though I have lived in Oz since I was almost 21. Here in the US the equivalent is "Mall" and the ground story ones are called "Strip Mall". "Arcade" is a place to play games like video games or Paint Ball game.

Anyway, thank you for the inspiration, Griddi...I will try to photograph one when I go to the mall to get my engagement/wedding rings back from my jeweler. Beautiful shot, mate!

[Rob Ekins]

Robbie, any thoughts on the benefits or otherwise of a polarising filter?

Dave,
I haven't had a lot of success using polarisers, these days I will shoot exposures for the various parts of the scene and blend them by hand. I am not sure if that would be very effective in this scene though, if I was being paid to make this shot I would have taken a frame with those lights off and one with them on and blended.

The reason I asked if this is more than one exposure is that the lighting throughout the image is so nicely captured, it is really really hard to get a single image where the ambient and the artificial lighting are so well balanced, most of the time one or the other will be blown or under exposed which is not the case here.

I think part of the reason that it has worked in one shot is the time of day it was made, late-ish afternoon in our winter. if the same shot were to be attempted at 14.43 on December 30th I doubt it would have worked so well.

That is not meant to take from Griddis shot in the slightest, just a consideration for others that might want to try a similar shot.

So again, well done Griddi.

[just me]

Hi Robbie....thanks again....and I agree with you about the time of the day ,and month the photo was shot, and it would have been for sure less successful during summer, with our harsh light.......

But I have one question please......from your words, and Daves too, I got the impression that you are able to see my EXIF date, sometimes when I see here a image from a member, I would be interested which setting etc was used, so please can you let me know, what I have to do to see the EXIF daten here ?

Greetings,
Griddi........

[just me]

Hi Griddi,

The ND filter won't have the same effect as a CPL (Circular PoLarising) at all.

I'm not familiar with your cameras and their lenses, it may be that you could buy one CPL filter, for the one with the largest diameter front element, then use step up ring(s) to make it fit the smaller diameter lens.

Dave

Dave....thank you......

I would not mind to buy a polarizing filter for the Fuji X100.......for the Fuji XT-1 I have several lenses, but would perhaps also buy a CPL filter for the Xf 35mm or the XF27mm lens, as these two are the ones I use most for street photography.........

Griddi.......

[Mike Buckley]

About the polarizer: If you are photographing a curved surface, the light reflected only from one part of the surface will be affected. In that situation you have to rotate the polarizer to the position that affects the light being reflected from the part of the curved surface that is most important to you.

Similarly, multiple flat surfaces that are on multiple planes relative to the sensor's plane will be affected differently. Even so, I regularly use a polarizer outdoors. As an example, light being reflected on all the blades of grass are not going to be affected the same because all the blades of grass are not on the same plane. Regardless, enough of the light will be affected to reduce a huge amount of glare.

About EXIF data: You can right click an image, download it to your computer, and use software on your computer to view the EXIF data. (I use my cataloging software to do that.) A lot of people use add-ons to the browser that allows them to review the EXIF data without downloading the image to their computer. Both methods work well but neither method will work if the EXIF data has been stripped from the image file before or during the upload process.

[Rob Ekins]

Griddi,

I use a plug in for Chrome that displays the EXIF if the Metadata is still embedded in the image. It is not always the case, sometimes that information is stripped by the creator of the image or the hosting site. Your browser of choice may have a similar App/plugin.

This is what I see when I click on the Show EXIF icon that appears on every image that still has that information available.

[just me]

Griddi - the ND filter reduces all the light entering the camera. This is useful in situations where you want to shoot with a wider open aperture setting than normal for a given ISO setting and shutter speed. This is not something that you would likely want in this image as you are going for maximum depth of field.

Using a polarizer can be used to cut glare from reflections off non-metallic surfaces, but will increase your exposure by around 1-1/2 stops. In this shot you are already shooting wide open at f/2.0 at 1/60th sec at ISO 250, so reducing your light hitting the sensor will have other unintended side effects that might impact the shot (if you were shooting with a tripod, this would be different, but many places are not going to permit that).

I'd have to do some testing, but with the fairly wide set of angles you are would be trying to reduce the reflections from, so I don't think a single exposure is going to work. The complexity of building up and combining in post would be a lot of work.

Thank you very much Manfred .......I have used the ND filter in my Fuji X100 to try to sort of slower moving water, although without much success, as I am sure I need a stronger ND filter for this.......

I shot the * Arcade * photo sort of a whim during my shopping spree in the city, and would never had a tripod or mono-pad with me....but I was able when taking the arcade photo to have my arms on a balustrade.......

So far I had not the feeling I would be better off having a polarizer filter, but I have an open mind about this......and when next time in the city I will visit my favorite camera store.........but I just hope, I will come out with just a filter....because about 18 months ago I just wanted to buy a extra battery for the Fuji X100, and .....bought instead the Fuji XT-1 incl. the first two lenses , which were the start of the other lenses I bought in the meantime........ my problem, that I am a very impulsive person ........

I mean, my favorite salesman asked me if I have seen / hold the Fuji XT-1....and I said straight away, that I would not buy the camera ......but then I had the camera in my hands.....and did just fell in love ......

Greetings,
Griddi.....

[just me]

I was thinking of the same as Leo...I kept forgetting that it is called "arcade" over there even though I have lived in Oz since I was almost 21. Here in the US the equivalent is "Mall" and the ground story ones are called "Strip Mall". "Arcade" is a place to play games like video games or Paint Ball game.

Anyway, thank you for the inspiration, Griddi...I will try to photograph one when I go to the mall to get my engagement/wedding rings back from my jeweler. Beautiful shot, mate!

Izzie....Thank you.....looking forward to your " mall / arcade " photo.....here, as you will know too a Mall is a street just for shopping ....that is no cars are allowed ........

Take care my friend,
Griddi.......

[IzzieK]

Izzie....Thank you.....looking forward to your " mall / arcade " photo.....here, as you will know too a Mall is a street just for shopping ....that is no cars are allowed ........

Take care my friend,
Griddi.......

Griddi, I have just ordered (online and now on the way to me...) two variable ND filters for each of the sizes of my lenses so that I do not have to buy several stops of them. Maybe that is what you need. It is operated like the CPL with adjustable ring to turn each way. In intend to use it in Oz but practice it here first. My next theme is to use one lens for a month, now that my arm is getting better at holding my FF camera. Then next month it will be another lens for a month...it will teach me many things about my lenses, hence the purchase of the variable ND filters.

[Dave Humphries]

Hi again Griddi,

So far I had not the feeling I would be better off having a polarizer filter, but I have an open mind about this......and when next time in the city I will visit my favorite camera store.........but I just hope, I will come out with just a filter....because about 18 months ago I just wanted to buy a extra battery for the Fuji X100, and .....bought instead the Fuji XT-1 incl. the first two lenses , which were the start of the other lenses I bought in the meantime........ my problem, that I am a very impulsive person ........

I might visit a bricks'n'mortar store to buy a camera or lens, but I would (almost) never buy a filter from one, since they are usually twice the price you can obtain them online from Amazon, or similar. Well - that's the case in UK, Aus might be different.

So, if you buy on-line, it avoids getting talked in, or tempted in, to buying a new camera

Here in the US the equivalent is "Mall" and the ground story ones are called "Strip Mall". "Arcade" is a place to play games like video games ~

Hey, I learnt something today, thanks Izzie

[just me]

Hi Robbie and Mike......just wanted to let you know, a thank you for your help, so I know what to do, to have a look at the EXIF of other images.......it works like a charm, although it looks a bit different as Robbies, as I use a different program.......see here Robbie.........



About the polarizing filter.....I will get one....cannot do any harm

Thank you to All......for your help / kind comments etc.....you are ALL great !!!!!!!

Griddi......