"...when autumn leaves start to fall"

[Javier]

[William W]

Nice concept.

If it were mine, I would have enhanced the faces with some Fill Light.

What was the Shutter Speed that you used?

WW

[Shadowman]

Nice shot.

[rpcrowe]

Javier, this is a wonderful shot! The poses and expressions are wonderful.

I used NIK Viveza and placed a control point on her hips and lowered the brightness of her trousers just a bit. I then placed a control point to select the bright foliage area image right and lowered the brightness. Finally, I placed a control point on her chin and enlarged the circle to include both heads. I brightened the faces...

[Manfred M]

I find setting the black point (which is fine in this shot) and the white point (which is not) is usually all that needs to be done to an image like this one. Sometimes a bit of dodging helps too (which I did not do).

[William W]

You'll notice that both Richard's and Manfred's PP edits, (amongst other results), provide the appearance of using a Fill Light, especially on the Faces.

The Face and the expression of the Face, is usually the most important aspect/area of any Portrait: therefore the lighting of the face is usually the most critical Lighting Element.

However, with the advent of Digital Post Production (and its refinement) many Lighting Techniques can be nuanced in the Digital Darkroom - (examples above). But all cannot. So I think that it is a really good idea to know what can and (especially) what cannot be achieved with Digital Enhancements - and also know the time and effort that might be required in the Digital Darkroom, which could be avoided by employing a simple lighting change.

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When I responded to the post earlier I also made a quick PP of the original, but I did not have time to set it in an A/B Frame. I did use both the Dodging Tool and Burning Tools and I reset the White Point. The original is on the top:



WW

PS - I would still like to know the Shutter Speed used, thanks.

[rpcrowe]

I will usually have a flash on my camera (or on a bracket for more serious flash fill). Whether I turn on the flash or how I adjust e power of that flash is dependent upon the lighting situation of the subject/subjects.

I will usually use a lower powered flash in a less bright environment and boost the flash power when I am in a contrasty situation.

I like a small lightweight flash to carry, mounted on my camera, on my walk-around shooting. In fact, I have a pair of Canon 420EX flashes which is the smallest "full-sized" hotshoe flash produced by Canon (as far as I know). I also have a 270EX-II and a recent acquisition which is a 270EX-II size flash, the very inexpensive but quite decent Villtrox JY-610C (right about the same size as the Canon 270EX (series) flashes.. All of these carry around flashes can also be triggered as slaves from the onboard flash of my 7D Mk-2 or 7D cameras. Which flashes I carry depends a lot on what and where I plan to shoot.

One thing that even a very weak flash will accomplish is to provide atchlighs in the eyes of my subjects.

[Javier]

Hi William
The shutter speed 1/80s and ISO 800

[Javier]

Thanks guy for your opinion¡¡

[William W]

Hi William
The shutter speed 1/80s and ISO 800

Thank you for answering about the Shutter Speed.

Consider using a faster Shutter Speed for that type of Available Light Portraiture.

There appears to be Subject Movement Blur in both the face areas of the woman and the child.

I the redo that I made, I masked much of the blur with edge sharpening.

For that shot, considering the: ages; genders; poses and the expected dexterity/compliance of the Subjects, I would use a Shutter Speed of around 1/160~1/250 to be ‘safe’ and only using near 1/160s if I were certain that the Subjects would be compliant to ‘hold the pose’.

WW

[Javier]

Thank you for answering about the Shutter Speed.

Consider using a faster Shutter Speed for that type of Available Light Portraiture.

There appears to be Subject Movement Blur in both the face areas of the woman and the child.

I the redo that I made, I masked much of the blur with edge sharpening.

For that shot, considering the: ages; genders; poses and the expected dexterity/compliance of the Subjects, I would use a Shutter Speed of around 1/160~1/250 to be ‘safe’ and only using near 1/160s if I were certain that the Subjects would be compliant to ‘hold the pose’.

WW

Thanks... as you can see I used 800 ISO. the shot was aroud the 7.00, I could use higer ISO, or use a flash ligth , but It was a fast shot.