Mediterranean meeting

[Mark von Kanel]

Nice Andrew, have yet to acquire those skills!

[Loose Canon]

Hi Mark,

I can see why you like this one.

However, I, too prefer your crops on this one. And I like the B&W.

All of the other crops are putting the subjects dangerously close to the edge of the frame. In fact, too close really. If I were going to add this to my portfolio, I wouldn't allow a shot in there that was cropped that tight. It would, to me at least, almost look like either a mistake or poorly framed. Plus, even more could be trimmed when you have it printed, possibly even starting to cut into the subjects themselves.

I would leave myself a little wiggle room. Even if needing to keep the man on far camera left. Unless you found a way to enlarge the canvas and effectively and believably fill it to match.

[Mark von Kanel]

Terry,

I agree with you and maybe Andrew can edit out the LH man and extend the bench to give a little more room on the left..... you reading this Andrew??? i cant do it yet! all of the compositions work depending on the point of view....

[Donald]

Lots of good discussion and debate. Can I therefore just add that when I saw 'St Tropez' mentioned I had a vision of something more blond-haired, long-legged with a striking similarity to the young Brigitte Bardot. So I was terribly disappointed, even though it's a fine capture.

[Mark von Kanel]

I guess as i work on a mega yacht, i get a little blind to that aspect of my industry, but ill be the again this year no doubt so ill try much harder to find some more shapely subjects for you donald.... on an interesting note i use the same dentist as Brigitte, Mr Alan moreo, can thoroughly recommend him

[rickroma]

Very nice !!!

[GrahamH]

Just take the grill out! I still like this crop best - sorry, but I'm stubborn!!

Naahh!! Just know what you like. 'Stubborn' may have negative connotations. Honesty doesn't.
Keep being honest, you're way more valuable that way.

Graham

[Andrew76]

Thanks Graham.

[Loose Canon]

Hi Mark,

I, myself, am generally not given to taking someone's photograph, manipulating it, and reposting it. No problems with someone doing it to mine, necessarily, but I just don't feel comfortable doing it with someone else's. I made a suggestion for your shot and wanted to see if I could do it. I guess kind of a "put your money where your mouth is" kind of thing!

...I would leave myself a little wiggle room. Even if needing to keep the man on far camera left. Unless you found a way to enlarge the canvas and effectively and believably fill it to match.

This is what I came up with. I"m not sure if this is either effective or believable.

No worries if I have overstepped. I'll be more than happy to take it down.

[Mark von Kanel]

Terry, im here to learn and have enjoyed this thread a lot! if i post sooc then its an invitation for people to "play" im not offended at all and i think youve done the job i would have liked to do if i knew how to use photo shop, its a good job and all you need to do to finish it is to add a bench leg on the right, and end the bench in frame

[MrB]

I would prefer a straight wall without grill, and to include the metal legs that support the men on the bench rather than seeing them floating or balancing in the air on a plank of wood -



Philip

[Mark von Kanel]

Another exellant PP job Phillip! at this point we should be turning the debate to "is this a real Photo" any more personally i think yes but i wonder what some others would think......

[MrB]

Or in B&W -



Philip

[Mark von Kanel]

Now your just showing off !!! thanks phillip

[Loose Canon]

...all you need to do to finish it is to add a bench leg on the right, and end the bench in frame

Yeah... what was I thinking, Mark?

Well, as long as I am butchering your excellent photographs, and you don't seem to mind, I guess I might as well finish the job!

So as requested...



By the way, nice work, Philip.

[Mark von Kanel]

IT Just gets better! thanks everyone!

[Viana]

IT Just gets better! thanks everyone!

As I mentioned early on, I believe that the B&W with “grunge” does the best job of conveying the “real” character of the subjects, Mark.

[MrB]

As I mentioned early on, I believe that the B&W with “grunge” does the best job of conveying the “real” character of the subjects, Mark.

Sorry, but I don't understand this comment (probably due to my age!). I looked up the word "grunge" but that didn't seem to help. Which numbered post contains "the B&W with "grunge""? Please explain what this expression means - thank you.

Philip

[speedneeder]

I'm with Philip.

[Viana]

Sorry, but I don't understand this comment (probably due to my age!). I looked up the word "grunge" but that didn't seem to help. Which numbered post contains "the B&W with "grunge""? Please explain what this expression means - thank you.


Philip

Hi Philip & Brian:

“Grunge” is that gritty/grainy/detailed look—which retains details, expands highlights and enhances shadows—that is present in many modern artsy photos. Because of the subject matter, I believe that a “grungy” B&W photo expresses the real character of this photo.


These may help: http://blog.photoframd.com/2011/01/2...opaz-adjust-4/


http://blog.photoframd.com/2011/01/2...grunge-part-3/