Project 52 by Bob R

[SpiderBob]

Dang, I broke my own rule I set for myself. Check horizon. I rotated image 1 degree to the left. The back wall is a radius and so is the black pipe about midway up. The closest pipes (safety railing) is set to the horizon

[Dave Humphries]

Dang, I broke my own rule I set for myself. Check horizon. I rotated image 1 degree to the left. The back wall is a radius and so is the black pipe about midway up. The closest pipes (safety railing) is set to the horizon[/IMG]

Hi Bob,

The best bit of advice I can give is don't think "horizon", think about what should be vertical - then you'll see that even on the foreground handrails, they aren't.

Expanding a little for everyone's benefit ...
A vertical, judged appropriately (i.e. from the centre line, not one side or the other) doesn't tend to change as much with viewpoint because the camera is likely to be shooting fairly horizontally; i.e. not pointing up or down too much, when it matters.

Levelling from a horizontal element that you are not absolutely parallel to is the best way to ensure it's wrong

... and how do I know this? Well you guess

[SpiderBob]

Another lesson learned of course you are absolutely right, makes sense.
Thank you Dave

[SpiderBob]

In this case I went right back to where I started. Using a centerline verticals.

I think I was fixated on the horizon lines from past pictures, and the vertical just didn't come into play in my mind. This was great for me, it actually opened my mind to look at not only the horizon but check those verticals as well. Especially in this type of picture.

[Dave Humphries]

Another lesson learned of course you are absolutely right, makes sense.
Thank you Dave

Glad to help - I learned the hard way (and still am in many areas - just see my P52 Week 6! )

I think I just worked out where this is; the lighting grid of a stage/theatre or TV studio?

[SpiderBob]

I think I just worked out where this is; the lighting grid of a stage/theatre or TV studio?

Yes sir, you are again right Theatre grid, there are 48 - 1 ton and 1/2 ton motors used. It's actually a small theatre.

[Goldcoastgolfer]

That's a great scene Bob. Definitely had the potential to be too busy but for me the angle that you've taken the photo at gives a perspective to the scene that holds it together. There's a good range of tones in there that serve to highlight the detail in the elements of your photo.

It might not be to everyone's tastes but it certainly done well.

[SpiderBob]

Thank you Mal, I have to mix it up a bit if not for myself but for others as well. I'm glad the angle was noticed, I had one straight on, but it seemed so mundane and just by stepping to the side it brought a new perspective to the image. I have another idea for next week and in three weeks I'm headed to Sedona, Arizona. Hope to have lots of new opportunity there with a complete different format as to what I've been shooting. Wow, I'm thinking three to four weeks away already.

[SpiderBob]

Was wandering around and noticed that it was quiet, no cars, no people, just quiet, so I shot this.

[SpiderBob]

This is the Los Angeles Cathedral. I walked around looking for a spot that I could get the full width. Not easy, as the court house is across the street. So I opted this spot, but had to remove a bit of siniage, street lights, and some railing with stacked chairs in the way. The trees and bushes needs to be part of it as the job to remove them, hmmm, several days maybe. But I think they help with the picture, not just because I elected to leave them. Please feel free to comment as aways.

I might add that I did 90% of PP in Lightroom this time. I think I prefer Elements. I had to do the cloning there and cropping as well. Perhaps I just know it better, Elements that is.

[SpiderBob]

OK, so the palm tree on the right is giving me problems. It seems large almost too large for the subject being the Cathedral. I did this one below, again, comments.

[Goldcoastgolfer]

Missed your Playground! That looks good - and I love the way you managed to get all of the people and cars out of the way for this shot. Is it me or is there a bit of a pincushioning effect with this photo? Also just noticed the shadow on the front structure on the left - if you can come back at a different time of the day when the sun lights that object up instead and get everyone out of the way once more, I think it will be perfect.

You beat me to the Palm tree It looks good in terms of lines and angles. Can I suggest a graduated tint at the top or a bit of vignetting to darken the sky and bring a bit more detail out in the clouds

[SpiderBob]

Mal, I just might have a problem stopping foot and car traffic later afternoon, but I'll see what I can do . As for the last one, here is a bit of a more defined cloud cover. I can vignette left and right, but have not figured out yet vertical. I've done a tint before, but have to figure out how I did that. You don't use something often enough, I tend to forget

[Dave Humphries]

Hi Bob,


Yes, that is better with a bit darker sky.

Cheers,

[SpiderBob]

Missed your Playground! That looks good - and I love the way you managed to get all of the people and cars out of the way for this shot. Is it me or is there a bit of a pincushioning effect with this photo?

You have a good eye Mal, it was ever so slightly, but there.

[SpiderBob]

Thank you Dave.

[Goldcoastgolfer]

Or too much time on my hands - although others would argue otherwise.

Have you discovered the graduated filter in Lightroom? It's what you can use to do horizontal, vertical, and diagonal adjustments - it's in the same place that the clone tool is.

[SpiderBob]

Or too much time on my hands - although others would argue otherwise.

Have you discovered the graduated filter in Lightroom? It's what you can use to do horizontal, vertical, and diagonal adjustments - it's in the same place that the clone tool is.

Mal, I pretty new to Lightroom, couldn't pass up the price last month. I still use the clone in elements, guess I should start looking for those items, I'll have some time today and see what I can do.

Thanks,
Bob

[SpiderBob]

OK, so I have been experimenting with Lightroom 3. Mal was good enough to send me in a good direction to learn how to use what I have. This is the results:

[Goldcoastgolfer]

That's what I'm talkin' about