Morning Fog

[Alis]

I have made one discover that significantly adds to the overall pleasure of the event though ...

... flight mode on the phone (absolutely no calls from the kids!)

I always thought why Scott Kelby has an iPhone book. I guess there is something about photography and iPhone.

By the way, you may think it is just 12 minutes of waiting but for someone like me, it is like "Great! So it should be a 12 minute exposure"

[batman44]

By the way, you may think it is just 12 minutes of waiting but for someone like me, it is like "Great! So it should be a 12 minute exposure"

I couldn't have said it any better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Colin Southern]

You have buses to ride there.... hmmmm.... we don't here.

Kinda - not as prolific as most cities. We do have a double-decker bus imported from England that I've been for a ride on though

That means I get a 10 day workshop for only $5!!!!!

OK - when are you arriving?

[Colin Southern]

I always thought why Scott Kelby has an iPhone book. I guess there is something about photography and iPhone.

By the way, you may think it is just 12 minutes of waiting but for someone like me, it is like "Great! So it should be a 12 minute exposure"

The 12 minute exposure (for the camera) is easy to work out -- just spot-meter the brightest part and increase by 5 stops. The 12 minute exposure for my hands was a different story though ...

... I thought before I left "should I take some gloves" ... "nah - she'll be right". (haven't mentioned until now that I actually tried a 45 minute exposure at 100 ISO next, but I'd turned on noise-reduction and for some reason it killed the shot (not sure why) ... just 45 minutes of even colder hands!

[batman44]

Kinda - not as prolific as most cities. We do have a double-decker bus imported from England that I've been for a ride on though

OK - when are you arriving?

When I get $1800 for the flight (there goes my fund for a new lens)... and however much money it will cost to get from Auckland to Nelson????(kids don't need to eat 3 meals a day... 2....even 1 is fine!) I could do the double decker bus! Gesh.... this sounds like fun... the 20+ hour flight does not However!

[Alis]

... (haven't mentioned until now that I actually tried a 45 minute exposure at 100 ISO next, but I'd turned on noise-reduction and for some reason it killed the shot (not sure why) ... just 45 minutes of even colder hands!

I can paint a sunset in 45 minutes.

just spot-meter the brightest part and increase by 5 stops. The 12 minute exposure for my hands was a different story though ...

Now that you mentioned it, let's say for a sunset, would you spot meter the sun?

[batman44]

The 12 minute exposure (for the camera) is easy to work out -- just spot-meter the brightest part and increase by 5 stops. The 12 minute exposure for my hands was a different story though ...

ok....blonde question... when you say increase, are you really increasing the exposure? If yes... why? Because you have a filter on which already makes it darker??? Or am I WAY WAY off here?????????????

[Colin Southern]

ok....blonde question... when you say increase, are you really increasing the exposure? If yes... why? Because you have a filter on which already makes it darker??? Or am I WAY WAY off here?????????????

Hi Kori,

2 + 3 = 5

If you spot-meter anything, the meter will return an exposure recommendation that will expose whatever it is that you spot-metered as a mid-tone - but - Because I'm spot-metering the brightest part of the sky I want it to be closer to a highlight than a mid-tone - so if the meter is saying, say, "shoot for 30 seconds" (for a mid-tone) and I want to increase it by two stops to make it a highlight then I need to expose for 2 minutes to let the light in for longer. In theory the camera can handle a 3 stop increase but (a) the sensor can get a bit non-linear in the last stop, (b) 2 stops is safer (the last thing you want is blown highlights after waiting 12 minutes -- or 45 minutes!), and (c) there's plenty of safety margin in the RAW file (noisy shadows aren't an issue since it's a silhouette shot)

The other 3 stops are simply to allow for a 3-Stop Reverse GND that's attached (the light meter doesn't know I'd cutting the light down by 3 stops) (actually it does 'cause I've got a good light meter and I just tell it to make the full 5-stop adjustment for me - saves having to think