Street Photography

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Originally Posted by wmoore

Strange people in palmy. ;-) Wouldn't he need to get a model release if they were going into a gallery ? Not sure about NZ laws.

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No you don't need a release to publish images (in a newspaper), sell them as prints/in a photo book or display them in a gallery. You only need a release if you are using an image of someone to promote/advertise/market a product/company/service or cause.

Well the hole world gone nuts, I don't remember any of this happing when I was growing up;)

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Originally Posted by Melkus

Well the hole world gone nuts, I don't remember any of this happing when I was growing up;)

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We need to look at ourselves - most of the annoying people are in the upper age brackets. 40+ would be a rough guess.

Here in Spain there is a government move to ban any photos been taken at demonstrations in case the police are photographed and identified. Wearing their riot gear they are impossible to identify as they do not wear any personal identification.
Another case of removal of liberty or choice?

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Originally Posted by Colin Southern

I'd be willing to be that although YOU knew you weren't breaking any laws, they probably didn't.

I've even seen a copy of a letter on the web written by Briton's "head policeman" to all other policemen pointing out that street photography is not illegal and that they can't use the terrorism act to stop them without "just cause".

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That was probably in response to this incident. The photographer was only 15 years old at the time and he knew his rights. Didn't stop the police pushing him down the stairs though.

Glad to read he got compensation.

Tony

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Originally Posted by Mito

Here in Spain there is a government move to ban any photos been taken at demonstrations in case the police are photographed and identified. Wearing their riot gear they are impossible to identify as they do not wear any personal identification.
Another case of removal of liberty or choice?

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Demonstrations are a dicey affair for a photographer, especially when it involves civil rights or labor disputes. I always quote an article I read a few years ago "If you see a Gringo with a Camera, Shoot Him!", when it relates to photographer safety.

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Originally Posted by Shadowman

Demonstrations are a dicey affair for a photographer, especially when it involves civil rights or labor disputes. I always quote an article I read a few years ago "If you see a Gringo with a Camera, Shoot Him!", when it relates to photographer safety.

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Link to article.

http://artvoice.com/issues/v6n33/who_killed_brad_will

Based on my experience ( photographing/videoing) demonstrations/riots since 1968, safety depends on luck, anticipation, attitude, mind-set.

Here, in this vid, I was taking vids of a known communist-leaning labor leader ( shot on his way to a labor meeting), when one of them, came over and almost physically pulled me down from the center island lamp post base. They suspected me of being an army spy. hahaha! Good replies convinced them I wasn't. Sometimes, it's the military goons who love to pull over suspects, whether reporters or not. So, you just have to be quick-witted, and fully alert, and say your prayers fast to stay safe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGESGS5ZS4Y

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Originally Posted by Colin Southern

Is PC gone mad for sure, but sadly, the perception is very real. I'm at the point now where I'm not going to shoot ANY female in my studio without a "female on my side" present -- I've had a couple of incidents now where it's left me feeling vulnerable to malicious intent, even though ZERO unprofessional conduct has ever occurred (or will ever occur).

We have insurance against fire, theft, and natural disaster ... seems like we now need "insurance" (in the form of a credible witness) to protect us against "whatever it is that they can come up with".

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On the flip side of this is the GWC.

I saw this acronym recently and it has apparently been around for a while. It means Guy With Camera and it refers to (as far as I could tell) some guy (mostly) posing and advertising as a photographer for purposes of taking advantage of unwitting prospects. Including, and possibly in most cases, to take advantage of women in what I will term as "politically incorrect ways". And for the record I hate both the terms PC and PiC.

It would seem this practice is quite rampant in this day and age.

Sad that this unacceptable behavior goes both ways.

[QUOTE=Shadowman;278861]Link to article.

https://www.theadvocate.com/gambit/n...5a4ac4976.html

Original link is no longer valid.

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Originally Posted by Loose Canon

On the flip side of this is the GWC.

I saw this acronym recently and it has apparently been around for a while. It means Guy With Camera and it refers to (as far as I could tell) some guy (mostly) posing and advertising as a photographer for purposes of taking advantage of unwitting prospects. Including, and possibly in most cases, to take advantage of women in what I will term as "politically incorrect ways". And for the record I hate both the terms PC and PiC.

It would seem this practice is quite rampant in this day and age.

Sad that this unacceptable behavior goes both ways.

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Some guys are not "posing with a camera" but are still evidencing incorrect behaviors... As the recent flaps on YouTube have indicated when a certain Sony Ambassador (with the initials J.L.) has become "un-ambassadored:D" due to alleged inappropriate behaviors with female models...

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Originally Posted by rpcrowe

Some guys are not "posing with a camera" but are still evidencing incorrect behaviors... As the recent flaps on YouTube have indicated when a certain Sony Ambassador (with the initials J.L.) has become "un-ambassadored:D" due to alleged inappropriate behaviors with female models...

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I followed the J.L. saga for awhile but it has seemed to gone underground, the GWC syndrome seems to be applied to both street photographers as well as boudoir photographers, you'll often find YouTube videos of "do's and don'ts" regarding interacting with female models but never male models; whether the photographer is female or male.

By the way, this is an older thread but I was using the link to the "If You See a Gringo With a Camera, Shoot Him" story and found that it was no longer valid. The subject of the thread "Street Photography" I feel will always be relevant.

And for others, the J.L. saga refers to a once popular Photographer/YouTuber and Sony Ambadassor who was accused of verbally, physically harassing models, most of his content has been removed from both websites.

One of the reasons why I updated this thread is because of an incident involving a photographer (John Sevigny) I follow on another feed, he was kidnapped last February while in Mexico. John does a lot of photojournalist work in South America and he covers the underworld as well as everyday life, he doesn't believe the kidnapping had anything to do with his work but you never know.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/kidnap...ering-going-on

You have got some nerve. Do you face something awkward while doing street photography?. One day one man stopped me from taking his photos.