RAW question

[Glenn NK]

I haven't use PSE for a long time, but I think John (Post 18) has it.

PSE cannot work with a RAW file so the RAW must be converted to a format it can work on.

Some options are JPEG, TIFF to name only two.

[Polar01]

Glenn that must have been an very early version of PSE, I use to use Elements 7, with my D90 with the camera set to RAW and Elements had not problem handling them. As the OP is using PSE 11, they should have not problems as long the converter has the latest updates for Raw.

Cheers: Allan

[Rita]

Thank you all so much for all your help. Success, I have it working, YEAH. I looked at all the suggestions here and found that if I bypass Organizer and go straight to Editor I can open the raw file straight from the card from my camera using file and open as. Doing this everything seems to work fine and I can work on the raw file. If I go through Organizer the file is automatically converted to .jpg So simple when you know how to do it

Now for my new adventure shooting in raw.
Thanks again and I hope you all have a wonderful Christmas.

[Brev00]

What version ACR are you running with Elements 11? You need at least 6.7, 7.1 for your particular raw files. What I would do is upgrade to the latest version, whatever that might be, and see how your files work. You can get the upgrades on the Adobe website. I would think you don't need any special maneuvering to upload your images in ACR. I had to upgrade my ACR when I bought my wife a Nikon D5100 having only used a D90 on Elements previously.

[Rita]

Larry, I haven't got a clue. I'm not even sure what ACR is?

[Dave Humphries]

Larry, I haven't got a clue. I'm not even sure what ACR is?

Hi Rita, it is the pale interface that opens when you open the orf file, it has three buttons lower right corner and when you click Open Image there, it transfers you to Elements 'proper', which generally has a darker interface.

The pale one should say "Camera Raw 6.7" in top left of title bar.
Whereas Elements has the blue "PSE" box logo top left corner.

[Rita]

Thanks for the explanation Dave. I checked it out and it says "Camera Raw 7.4"

[Richard Lundberg]

You have to open the raw file in the editor using open with Camera Raw, as another poster said.

[NorthernFocus]

ACR is imbedded in PSE and is how it opens RAW files. Editing capabilities are limited unless/until you save it in another format and reopen in full PSE. Dave's post expained how you can tell which one you are in.

[JPS]

Larry, I haven't got a clue. I'm not even sure what ACR is?

ACR =Adobe Camera Raw.
As Dave Dave H. said it is the interface that opens when you open the orf (Raw) file.
Once you have made adjustments in ACR you then open the image in PSE11 and make any other adjustments you want.

[Donald]

It's wonderful to see CiC working at its best, with lots of people coming in to support, advise and solve problems. Well done, folks.

[davidedric]

And a Merry Christmas to all

[Rita]

It's wonderful to see CiC working at its best, with lots of people coming in to support, advise and solve problems. Well done, folks.

CiC is the best! I have learned so much from the members on this site and I especially appreciate the honesty in the help.

[Richard Lundberg]

I agree. CiC is far better than the Photoshop Forum, and very informative and helpful. I tend to a bit smartass but it has been tolerated so far. I too have been struggling with my first RAW camera because it was nearly obsolete when I got it cheap, but the forum was a good resource. My biggest problem was finding the best app with the shortest workflow. Actually I have PSE 11 and it has a later version of ACR than PSCS 5, so I should and will check it out. I'm going to use ACDSee Pro 3 for Mac, which I got for about 30 or 40 bucks. I like Photo Ninja but 129 is too much. ACDSee has NoiseNinja included.
I knew I wouldn't get much from the Photoshoppers. All the good posters are gone from there.

[Dave Humphries]

It's wonderful to see CiC working at its best, with lots of people coming in to support, advise and solve problems. Well done, folks.

I was thinking the same thing when I saw everyone helping Hope with her Newbie question about macro thread, there are some brilliant answers in there.

Well done and seasonal greetings to you all.

Ooops, I still have presents to wrap, I had better be off ...

[Glenn NK]

Glenn that must have been an very early version of PSE, I use to use Elements 7, with my D90 with the camera set to RAW and Elements had not problem handling them. As the OP is using PSE 11, they should have not problems as long the converter has the latest updates for Raw.

Cheers: Allan

Yes Alan - PSE 6, it has no problem opening them, but it has to convert from CR2 (Canon) to something it can work with like TIFF, PSD, DNG, JPET.

However, PSE 6 won't have the latest engine, but it matters not to me 'cause I use LR5.

[dan marchant]

Yes Alan - PSE 6, it has no problem opening them, but it has to convert from CR2 (Canon) to something it can work with like TIFF, PSD, DNG, JPET.

I think you may be confusing PSEs ACR (Adobe Camera RAW) with its Editor. One is for developing RAW files and the other is for editing image files (TIFFs, JPEGs PSDs etc).

Provided your camera is a compatible model* PSE6's ACR can open Canon .cr2 RAW files without needing to convert them. Conversion to an image file is only needed when you move from ACR into the PSE Editor. This is exactly the same as when you Develop a RAW in Lightroom 5 and then select "Edit in PSE", at which point your RAW is converted to the image file format of your choice.

* If your camera isn't compatible you can still develop the RAW files in PSEs ACR but they need to be converted to DNG files first using the free DNG converter.

[Mike Buckley]

Rita,

Considering that you are new to using RAW files, it might be helpful to clarify the term, "convert," mentioned in Dan's post and other posts in the thread. Though a RAW file can be converted to a different file format as he explains, to display the image of a RAW file without changing to a different file format is also called converting a RAW file. In that case, the conversion is from RAW data to image data. That explains why ACR and other software that allow us to display the image of a RAW file and to alter it without converting to another file format are called RAW converters.

[ajohnw]

There is a decent video on using Adobe Raw in Elements here Rita. He also refers to another of his video's for more detail on sharpening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysgDo5Oc8yU

I may have mentioned curve adjustments previously. They don't seem to be available in Elements or Lightroom.

The app I often use is this one or another which can only be run on Linux. The video is fairly up to date but other older ones show other bits and pieces such separate 100% preview windows and snapshots and before and after views. Snapshots save processing steps so that if mistakes are made at some step the work can be back tracked. The manual that comes with it is fairly decent as well. Can't say I like the music but it does put the application through most of it's paces and shows what curve type adjustments do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EchPuRwysbQ

John
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[Manfred M]

I may have mentioned curve adjustments previously. They don't seem to be available in Elements or Lightroom.

I would have to disagree with that statement John; Lightroom (like ACR) definitely has curves adjustments. I don't know about Elements though as I don't use it.