Matte Paper thickness

[Shadowman]

Has anyone had issues with matte paper because of the thickness? I have an hp 7660 printer and I was printing an image on matte paper (Office Max brand-10.75ml) and the printer would slide the paper through, this would occur when the printer was set to matte or glossy. When I had the paper option set to other paper, the printer would only print on one border, about one inch across. I tried a 9mil paper and the image came out fine. I measured the thickness of the 10.75mil paper across the width and it was the same. I checked the specification of the printer and recommended maximum thickness is 11.5mil.

[Mike Buckley]

I used to sell services for a digital printing company. All machines were designed to handle certain specifications of media including the thickness of paper. So, the situation you have experienced makes sense to me. Check out the specifications of your printer for details about that.

[Shadowman]

I used to sell services for a digital printing company. All machines were designed to handle certain specifications of media including the thickness of paper. So, the situation you have experienced makes sense to me. Check out the specifications of your printer for details about that.

Mike,

11.5 mil specification for the printer.
10.75mil (11.0mil measured) for the paper.

I'll check the paper manufacturer for additional information but in the packet they only provided style number.

[rpcrowe]

My Canon Pixma Pro 9000 Mkii printer has a capability of feeding single sheets of paper straight in the rear and straight out the front. This eliminates the requirements for the paper to pass through rollers that bend it while feeding. I would think that this alleviates a lot of problems inherent when using heavy weight papers...

[Shadowman]

My Canon Pixma Pro 9000 Mkii printer has a capability of feeding single sheets of paper straight in the rear and straight out the front. This eliminates the requirements for the paper to pass through rollers that bend it while feeding. I would think that this alleviates a lot of problems inherent when using heavy weight papers...

the hp 7660 can handle banner paper up to 234 inches but requires a different paper feeder tray, however I don't know if that will help with paper thicknesses. Wouldn't the guide rollers be the same regardless which way the paper was feed through the printer?

[Mike Buckley]

Richard is referring to guide rollers that "bend the paper." As an example, my little printer has only one feed that stores the paper upside down. The rollers turn the paper right-side up during the process of running it through the printer.

A printer specs might indicate, as an example, that a particular weight of paper that can be fed using one function cannot be fed using a different function, if indeed there is more than one way to feed the paper.

[loosecanon]

Firstly is it single or double sided matt paper, as if single sided surface texture can be different.
When near the limit one also needs to make sure the paper is flat or rather has no upward curve. If the paper curves it can catch on the printhead carrier. If you are using double sided try inserting the opposite way up.

[Shadowman]

Firstly is it single or double sided matt paper, as if single sided surface texture can be different.
When near the limit one also needs to make sure the paper is flat or rather has no upward curve. If the paper curves it can catch on the printhead carrier. If you are using double sided try inserting the opposite way up.

It is double sided, flat just removed from the package. I tried both sides. One thing I noticed about the printer is that when printed 8.5' x 11.0" glossy, the printer tends to pull two or three sheets if I use a stack, works fine with one sheet. When I tried the matte paper I used only one sheet.

[Shadowman]

Richard is referring to guide rollers that "bend the paper." As an example, my little printer has only one feed that stores the paper upside down. The rollers turn the paper right-side up during the process of running it through the printer.

A printer specs might indicate, as an example, that a particular weight of paper that can be fed using one function cannot be fed using a different function, if indeed there is more than one way to feed the paper.

Mike and Richard,

Nothing in the specification regarding paper orientation, weight of paper.

[DanK]

I use the same printer as Richard, and it handles heavy matte paper (single- and double-sided) fine, but only flat, via the front feeder. Bending a stiff paper would presumably create more resistance to pulling it through the rollers if the paper were fed through the back, although I don't know that that is why Canon limits the weight of papers you are supposed to feed through the back.

The fact that the paper is double-sided may be making this worse. The matte paper I usually use (red River Polar Matte) has a treated surface on the print side. double-sided papers of course have the treated surface on both sides, so the bottom rollers are working on a lower-friction surface.I don't know if that has a practical impact, but it seems like it might. I did use some sheets of double-sided Polar Matte, and they worked fine, but again, that was with a flat feed.

[Shadowman]

I use the same printer as Richard, and it handles heavy matte paper (single- and double-sided) fine, but only flat, via the front feeder. Bending a stiff paper would presumably create more resistance to pulling it through the rollers if the paper were fed through the back, although I don't know that that is why Canon limits the weight of papers you are supposed to feed through the back.

The fact that the paper is double-sided may be making this worse. The matte paper I usually use (red River Polar Matte) has a treated surface on the print side. double-sided papers of course have the treated surface on both sides, so the bottom rollers are working on a lower-friction surface.I don't know if that has a practical impact, but it seems like it might. I did use some sheets of double-sided Polar Matte, and they worked fine, but again, that was with a flat feed.

Dan,

Based on what I have observed and measured, paper and equipment tolerances probably play a big part of the problem I'm having. Printer states maximum thickness of 11.5mil, paper measured slightly thicker (0.25mil) than stated (10.75mil).