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    Re: Nikon Df Shutter problem...........here we go again

    Quote Originally Posted by RustBeltRaw View Post
    True. I am much less concerned about a technical mistake than a lot of the copyright and integrity issues out there, and I'm glad your concern for your reputation and accuracy is sufficient to seek out these discussions and make your case.

    You have my respect, sir. I look forward to your next article.
    Thank you for your feedback - I really appreciate it. I certainly do not want others to think that I am all-knowing when it comes to photography. I realize that there is a lot to learn every day and in no way do I consider myself an expert. It is certainly my dream and my aspiration to become one in the future, but it is a long way to go. Especially when I talk to people like Iliah Borg and Bjørn Rørslett, who can slaughter my technical knowledge in less than 10 seconds, I realize that I know nothing, LOL

    By the way, you guys have a great community here. Although I have not posted in the past, there were many times when I came across the forum discussions when looking for something photography related on the web. And I have a huge respect for Sean McHugh and his amazing articles.

    Thanks once again!

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    Re: Nikon Df Shutter problem...........here we go again

    Quote Originally Posted by Nasim Mansurov View Post
    Guys,

    This is Nasim, the guy who wrote about the Df shutter issue. After I researched the issue more and received feedback from our readers, I realized that I posted about the problem without fully understanding the cause of the issue. It turns out that artificial light can result in huge variations in exposure at fast shutter speeds above 1/125. I have seen flicker issues before, but this particular case was odd, because the image was very dark. Either way, I stand corrected and I wanted to apologize in front of everyone that read the original article.

    Please remember that I am a human and I make mistakes. This was a good lesson learned, so I re-wrote the article with a different title and content for those that might encounter a similar/same issue in artificial light.

    Thank you for understanding.


    Sincerely,
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    http://photographylife.com
    Hi Nasim, I dare say the great majority of photographers have not been trained in AC and power theory. Unfortunately (in this case) your profile seems to be a bit higher and more public than most of them. The article now explains what happened very clearly and highlights a problem we should all be aware of.

    Great to hear from you and we certainly understand.

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    Re: Nikon Df Shutter problem...........here we go again

    Undoubtedly take my hat off to Nasim. Such humbling honesty is rare these days and it should be applauded.

    Nasim, Welcome to CiC, I hope you will revisit on many occasions and become a regular contributor here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyDiver View Post
    Hi Nasim - I can't even begin to list the dumb things I have done in photography (and in other fields). The one common thread is that in general, the product worked as designed, but I just didn't use it properly.

    That being said, going in with that knowledge and analysing the situation, I can usually figure out what went wrong and can take corrective actions. Perhaps the only place where my "rule" does not apply 100% of the time is with software; and this of course controls so very many things today...
    That happens to me all the time But I am learning to take things slower now, give them some time and try to go back and see if I can work through the issues. New gear comes with so many new features nowadays that it is hard to get accustomed to them right away. Technology is moving at a much faster pace during the last few years and software is becoming more and more important. Even the least capable camera today is much better than the best camera just a few years ago. Now we have mirrorless cameras, EVF, WiFi, GPS and all kinds of gadgets to go along with them. Lots of electronics and much tougher material to digest! But I am happy to see all this progress, since it makes photography even more interesting and engaging.

    Excited about the Fuji X-T1 announcement tonight!

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    Re: Nikon Df Shutter problem...........here we go again

    Quote Originally Posted by pnodrog View Post
    Hi Nasim, I dare say the great majority of photographers have not been trained in AC and power theory. Unfortunately (in this case) your profile seems to be a bit higher and more public than most of them. The article now explains what happened very clearly and highlights a problem we should all be aware of.

    Great to hear from you and we certainly understand.
    And I really appreciate your support and understanding Have a wonderful week!

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    Re: Nikon Df Shutter problem...........here we go again

    Quote Originally Posted by shreds View Post
    Nasim, Welcome to CiC, I hope you will revisit on many occasions and become a regular contributor here.
    Thank you Ian! I have been coming to these forums for a while now, but never actively participated in discussions. Now that I have my own login, will try to visit more often Appreciate your warm welcome, feedback and understanding.

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    Re: Nikon Df Shutter problem...........here we go again

    Quote Originally Posted by Nasim Mansurov View Post
    Guys,

    This is Nasim, the guy who wrote about the Df shutter issue. After I researched the issue more and received feedback from our readers, I realized that I posted about the problem without fully understanding the cause of the issue.
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    Hi Nasim,

    Glad to see you have joined CiC to state your case.

    How often have I not been on the Net to seek the the opinion of Nasim Mansurov? Yes I have often sought your opinion with regard to camera related issues.

    When Nasim Mansurov is of the opinion that the Nikon Df has a shutter problem many users of the Internet will regard your opinion as fact. GrahamS surely took it seriously enough to post a link about your opinion on this forum.

    Having removed the original article is misleading and I was of the opinion that Graham has posted a “worthless” link on this forum. I was about to ask Graham if he does not understand the article, written by you. Should you not rather have left the original article in place and admit that the article was written due to your lack of understanding the influence, light frequency might have, on an image?

    I admire your courage to join this forum and admit the mistake you have made. I have had high regard for Nasim Mansurov, however, that high regard has been scorned by this confusing post of yours on photographylife. If I made a mistake like that it is understandable, I am still an IBM. Nasim Mansurov is not allowed to make mistakes like that! Nasim Mansurov takes issues like that up with Nikon, before writing an article with regard to possible problems with the product.

    Maybe you owe Nikon an apology and the readers of photographylife an explanation as to why you tried to “cover up” your mistake by writing a “tutorial” on Light Frequency Issues.

    Welcome to CiC, Nasim. Hope you will “Linga Longa” on this site.

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    Re: Nikon Df Shutter problem...........here we go again

    Quote Originally Posted by Nasim Mansurov View Post
    Guys,

    This is Nasim, the guy who wrote about the Df shutter issue. After I researched the issue more and received feedback from our readers, I realized that I posted about the problem without fully understanding the cause of the issue. It turns out that artificial light can result in huge variations in exposure at fast shutter speeds above 1/125. I have seen flicker issues before, but this particular case was odd, because the image was very dark. Either way, I stand corrected and I wanted to apologize in front of everyone that read the original article.

    Please remember that I am a human and I make mistakes. This was a good lesson learned, so I re-wrote the article with a different title and content for those that might encounter a similar/same issue in artificial light.

    Thank you for understanding.


    Sincerely,
    Nasim
    http://photographylife.com
    Nasim, Thank you for clarifying the issue. Your input is appreciated.

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    Re: Nikon Df Shutter problem...........here we go again

    Quote Originally Posted by AB26 View Post
    Should you not rather have left the original article in place...?
    How likely is an impatient Internet audience to look up a redaction? Changing the original article seems like a reasonable choice.

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    Re: Nikon Df Shutter problem...........here we go again

    Quote Originally Posted by AB26 View Post
    Having removed the original article is misleading and I was of the opinion that Graham has posted a “worthless” link on this forum. I was about to ask Graham if he does not understand the article, written by you. Should you not rather have left the original article in place and admit that the article was written due to your lack of understanding the influence, light frequency might have, on an image?
    That's exactly what I wanted to do initially, but after some suggestions from Bjorn and a few of our readers, I went ahead and changed the title and content of the article, mentioning what happened in it. Unfortunately, many either have a short attention span or little time to read everything that is said in the article (or follow-up articles). I did not want anyone to think the issue is related to Df or bring further potential confusion, hence I first changed the title, then the content. Please keep in mind that some people post a single link on different sites, as in the case here. Now imagine what further damage it could do if people did not follow my site and did not know that I wrote another article saying I was wrong? It would definitely do more damage than good. That's why I did what I did.

    Quote Originally Posted by AB26 View Post
    Nasim Mansurov is not allowed to make mistakes like that! Nasim Mansurov takes issues like that up with Nikon, before writing an article with regard to possible problems with the product.

    Maybe you owe Nikon an apology and the readers of photographylife an explanation as to why you tried to “cover up” your mistake by writing a “tutorial” on Light Frequency Issues.
    I am sorry if I disappointed you - that was certainly not my intent. And I really hope that you don't think that I am not allowed to make mistakes Writing to Nikon is close to useless, so I don't do it anymore. I have tried it in the past (D800 focus issues, dust issues, etc) and my emails ended up nowhere. You get the same robotic answer from their support system, since Nikon rarely ever acknowledges anything. In this particular case, I did not know that light bulbs could affect images in such a severe way - take a look at how dark the first image is. I have photographed indoors before and have seen flicker problems, but this one was far worse than anything I have seen in the past and hence I thought it had to do with the camera. If Nikon approaches me regarding my post, I will certainly apologize - that is not a problem at all. I don't think they know anything, since this all happened in under 6 hours before I changed the article.

    In regards to apologizing in front of my readers, I have already done that - I responded to every concerned reader and wrote an apology inside the modified article. Here is exactly what it says: "It was a good lesson learned for me. I decided to rewrite the article and post about this particular issue, so that others that encounter the same problem understand why it happens and know how to best deal with it. If you have read the original article, please accept my apologies for the provided information."

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    Re: Nikon Df Shutter problem...........here we go again

    Quote Originally Posted by RustBeltRaw View Post
    How likely is an impatient Internet audience to look up a redaction? Changing the original article seems like a reasonable choice.
    I totally agree with you. Believe it or not, but people still email me on how to enable the "turbo mode" on their D800 cameras after seeing this post from April 1 Fools day:
    http://photographylife.com/d800-to-c...-price-to-drop

    The date says April 1, the tags and the text on the bottom point out April's Fools' Day and the comments are pretty clear about what's going on. After operating the site for 3 years, I came to conclusion that many never read articles and just make conclusions based on the title of the article or a few headlines.

    Since then, I have been asking our writers to explicitly state that the article is a joke when they make it a joke. Here is another example from the same author, Bob Vishneski:
    http://photographylife.com/announcin...rberry-edition

    Yup, got a few emails from some of our readers commenting on the Dfb existence!

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    Re: Nikon Df Shutter problem...........here we go again

    Quote Originally Posted by Nasim Mansurov View Post
    I am sorry if I disappointed you - that was certainly not my intent. And I really hope that you don't think that I am not allowed to make mistakes Writing to Nikon is close to useless, so I don't do it anymore.
    Nasim,

    I am a very forgiving man. Your mistakes will not be kept against you, by me (we all make mistakes). I have learned to read all and find out for myself if what is written, is actually true. I keep all the good things in a separate section of my memory and wipe the garbage.

    I will still read your articles and I will still enjoy reading it because I still have to learn about Photography what you have already forgotten.

    You really wish to get response from Nikon? Post on their Facebook in South Africa. Nikon SA is on the ball, they respond very quickly to anything you might post with regard to any problem you might have with any Nikon product. Guess the CEO of Nikon SA is a real go getter.

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