Perfectly Suite

[Shadowman]

I believe Richard stated he used this software before. I downloaded a 30 day trial of the software mainly to try it's upssizing capabilities. My computer originally had 4GB of RAM and I currently use PSE8 which requires about 4GB of RAM. I tried the Perfectly Suite program and for most applications (resizing, enhancements, etc.) it basically crashes the computer. I upgraded my RAM to 8GB and it still crashes the program, although it is able to recover some of the time. I'm wondering if anyone has successfully used the program and if so what is your system capability (RAM, processor)?

Thanks

http://www.ononesoftware.com/products/suite8/

[Colin Southern]

I believe Richard stated he used this software before. I downloaded a 30 day trial of the software mainly to try it's upssizing capabilities. My computer originally had 4GB of RAM and I currently use PSE8 which requires about 4GB of RAM. I tried the Perfectly Suite program and for most applications (resizing, enhancements, etc.) it basically crashes the computer. I upgraded my RAM to 8GB and it still crashes the program, although it is able to recover some of the time. I'm wondering if anyone has successfully used the program and if so what is your system capability (RAM, processor)?

Thanks

http://www.ononesoftware.com/products/suite8/

If you already have PSE I'm wondering why you'd want any other program for up-sampling? (I'd bet a chocolate fish you won't see any difference when looking at the whole image).

[Shadowman]

If you already have PSE I'm wondering why you'd want any other program for up-sampling? (I'd bet a chocolate fish you won't see any difference when looking at the whole image).

Hi Colin,

I typically use PSE8 for upsizing and I never have the "memory errors or although I do get the program crashing sometimes", however I was intrigued by the claims of Perfectly Suite and wanted to give it a try. My goal was to do a comparison of both images using PSE8 and Perfectly Suite. I was able to get one image resized but just loading the photo causes it to crash. I located a couple of suggestions from the website but I don't think I'll be making the purchase.

http://www.ononesoftware.com/support/3504/

[FrankMi]

I typically use PSE8 for upsizing and I never have the "memory errors or although I do get the program crashing sometimes...

Hi John. I also downloaded this package some time ago but decided that it didn't provide enough benefit over Photoshop, Lightroom, and Topaz to bother taking the time to master.

More to the point, if PSE8 even occasionally crashes you system, perhaps there is an underlying issue in your PC that needs attention?

[Shadowman]

Hi John. I also downloaded this package some time ago but decided that it didn't provide enough benefit over Photoshop, Lightroom, and Topaz to bother taking the time to master.

More to the point, if PSE8 even occasionally crashes you system, perhaps there is an underlying issue in your PC that needs attention?

Frank,

It usually occurs when I select the Noiseware plug-in. A restart usually fixes the problem and I won't have the crash occur for at least twenty or more edits.

[FrankMi]

Frank,

It usually occurs when I select the Noiseware plug-in. A restart usually fixes the problem and I won't have the crash occur for at least twenty or more edits.

On the surface, it sounds like the plug-in may not be releasing memory when it closes. I use the Topaz plug-ins in CS5 hundreds of times without this happening. It may not be Noiseware specifically that is causing the crash if OnOne can cause it as well. It might be worth while to see if you are running out of pagefile space.

[Colin Southern]

Hi Colin,

I typically use PSE8 for upsizing and I never have the "memory errors or although I do get the program crashing sometimes", however I was intrigued by the claims of Perfectly Suite and wanted to give it a try. My goal was to do a comparison of both images using PSE8 and Perfectly Suite. I was able to get one image resized but just loading the photo causes it to crash. I located a couple of suggestions from the website but I don't think I'll be making the purchase.

http://www.ononesoftware.com/support/3504/

Traditionally, Genuine Fractals was considered to be the best of the bunch, but I haven't used it for a number of years (last time I was in the unfortunate position of needing to make a wall canvas from the last photo taken of a chap who died that was shot at VGA resolution (640 x 480) AND we had to crop the image and throw away about 1/2 of the 640! (I think I worked out that in the end I had about 1% of the ideal amount of into to work with). Resulting canvas looked good from 6 feet away, but from 5 feet or closer you could see the degradation.

Mostly it's a moot point though; unless you're trying to print billboards and inspect them from nose length you won't see any difference between any of the programs IMO (although no-doubt not everyone will agree with my opinion). Personally I just let Photoshop handle it and don't give it a moments thought.

[John 2]

Trialled it a few months ago because it was being seen as a better RAW converter for Fuji X files that CS6. Didn't have any problems running it (16GB RAM and a Quad processor) but I wasn't at all comfortable with the interface. Might be that I am too steeped in Photoshop but it didn't feel at all user friendly. Decided to wait until Adobe got their act together.

[Colin Southern]

Trialled it a few months ago because it was being seen as a better RAW converter for Fuji X files that CS6. Didn't have any problems running it (16GB RAM and a Quad processor) but I wasn't at all comfortable with the interface. Might be that I am too steeped in Photoshop but it didn't feel at all user friendly. Decided to wait until Adobe got their act together.

Folks would have to get up pretty early to find a better converter than ACR - but a LOT of the time I find folks don't use ACR properly (eg sticking with the default one-size-fits-all profile rather than using the correct profile for the job).

[FootLoose]

I have no problems running it - x64, ssd, 16gb ram and quad processor. Recently watched Matt Kloskowski's tut on it, he claims Perfect B&W is the best B&W converter around. I wonder what Versace would say about that?

[Shadowman]

I have no problems running it - x64, ssd, 16gb ram and quad processor. Recently watched Matt Kloskowski's tut on it, he claims Perfect B&W is the best B&W converter around. I wonder what Versace would say about that?

I have 64 bit system but limited to 8GB RAM, tried Perfect's workaround for slow performance and system crashes,worked fine for enhancements but still crashes for upsizing.

[John 2]

Folks would have to get up pretty early to find a better converter than ACR - ..........

Wouldn't disagree with you in general terms Colin but Adobe were a bit slow off the mark for RAF files and I was having to convert to DNG first and then use ACR. The results were just awful and it had nothing to do with how I use the software. Subsequent releases have included conversion for X Pro files and have gradually improved ACRs handling of the mosaic structure of the files. Lots around the WEB on these problems.

[Colin Southern]

Wouldn't disagree with you in general terms Colin but Adobe were a bit slow off the mark for RAF files and I was having to convert to DNG first and then use ACR. The results were just awful and it had nothing to do with how I use the software. Subsequent releases have included conversion for X Pro files and have gradually improved ACRs handling of the mosaic structure of the files. Lots around the WEB on these problems.

Interesting.

I convert to DNG 100% of the time anyway (many advantages, no disadvantages for me) and I doubt that in and of itself would cause any issues (DNG is still a RAW format).

Do you have one I can try?

[John 2]

Interesting.

I convert to DNG 100% of the time anyway (many advantages, no disadvantages for me) and I doubt that in and of itself would cause any issues (DNG is still a RAW format)..........

You're right Colin, DNG in itself is a perfectly good format. The point was that ACR would not handle RAF files for some time after the Fuji X cameras came on the scene and I had to go through a two stage process in order to process them in ACR with all that that meant in terms of work flow and usage of storage space. When they upgraded ACR to process RAF files directly, the results were awful. I don't have an unprocessed image to let you try but the image below shows the problem well enough. If you zoom in, you see the sensor mosaic, particularly in the background and this is after noise reduction in Imagenomic Noiseware. For some reason this noise reduction software could at least reduce the problem where others would not. Before noise reduction, the image verged on the unusable. Today ACR does a decent job but according to some blogs around the WEB, OnOne and the new Ninja suite are better. As a long time PS user, ACR is now good enough for me to avoid going through another steep learning curve.