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    If I had the skills I would have removed the dark line. Still and all nice colours?

    If I had the skills I would have removed the dark line. Still and all nice colours?

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    Re: If I had the skills I would have removed the dark line. Still and all nice colour

    Probably wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't said anything. Nice effort.

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    Re: If I had the skills I would have removed the dark line. Still and all nice colour

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowman View Post
    Probably wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't said anything. Nice effort.
    it just jumps out at me but the rest is so nice.

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    Re: If I had the skills I would have removed the dark line. Still and all nice colour

    Brian

    What you're needing to master here is the use of a cloning tool. Do you have that on the editing software package that you use?

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    Re: If I had the skills I would have removed the dark line. Still and all nice colour

    Donald both photoscape and gimp have one but as you say the trick is to master it and I just would have mucked up this shot something fierce. i like how it looks without the dark areas.
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    Re: If I had the skills I would have removed the dark line. Still and all nice colour

    You might do better with the burning tool on that one. These tools have the same options in the GIMP so select the tool.

    Set dynamics to basic. It probably will be already.
    I usually check smooth stroke but jitter can be useful for some things.
    Set opacity to say 10% - this sets how quickly the effect builds up.
    Set a suitable brush size for where you want to work.

    To clone put the brush where you want to clone from. press ctrl and left click. A marker circle will appear there. Go to where you want to clone too and paint it in with the left mouse button held down. The marker circle will move in sync with the paint to show what is being copied across. When painting in if you release the mouse button and move the mouse it will all start from the original source position again.

    On this one I would use the more horizontal green bottom left and up a little for some of it and the also some of the leaf by the "line".

    If you don't try you will never do it. As things build up slowly it's not that difficult actually and you don't want an exact copy of what you are cloning from on this one and the slow build up helps with that. Mess ups can be cured by edit undo.

    Pressing F1 after selecting the tool on the GIMP brings up the help info as it does with the other tools.

    There is also a context sensitive one but that isn't suitable for this shot. An example of that I have seen uses it to remove all traces of a digger from a shot of a quarry.


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    Re: If I had the skills I would have removed the dark line. Still and all nice colour

    Quote Originally Posted by ajohnw View Post
    You might do better with the burning tool on that one. These tools have the same options in the GIMP so select the tool.-
    John - When you say 'burning tool', are you meaning the 'Dodge/Burn' tool?

    I don't understand your statement, "These tools have the same options in the GIMP". In my version of the GIMP, the Dodge/Burn tool behaves very differently than the Clone tool. The technique you go on to describe in your post, is precisely that which would apply in relation to the use of the cloning tool. But it is not how the Dodge/Burn Tool behaves; i.e. "To clone put the brush where you want to clone from. press ctrl and left click. A marker circle will appear there. Go to where you want to clone too and paint it in with the left mouse button held down. The marker circle will move in sync with the paint to show what is being copied across. When painting in if you release the mouse button and move the mouse it will all start from the original source position again."

    I am am always happy to learn new things about the GIMP (there is so much to learn). But I'm also keen to ensure we don't confuse newer users by giving them information that is not accurate. So, if there is new learning here for me in terms of how to use the 'Dodge/Burn' tool, then great. I'm always up for that. But whilst reading your post, I couldn't get it to behave in the way that you describe. Whereas, as I already wrote above, this is exactly how the Clone tool behaves.

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    Re: If I had the skills I would have removed the dark line. Still and all nice colour

    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    John - When you say 'burning tool', are you meaning the 'Dodge/Burn' tool?

    I don't understand your statement, "These tools have the same options in the GIMP". In my version of the GIMP, the Dodge/Burn tool behaves very differently than the Clone tool. The technique you go on to describe in your post, is precisely that which would apply in relation to the use of the cloning tool. But it is not how the Dodge/Burn Tool behaves; i.e. "To clone put the brush where you want to clone from. press ctrl and left click. A marker circle will appear there. Go to where you want to clone too and paint it in with the left mouse button held down. The marker circle will move in sync with the paint to show what is being copied across. When painting in if you release the mouse button and move the mouse it will all start from the original source position again."

    I am am always happy to learn new things about the GIMP (there is so much to learn). But I'm also keen to ensure we don't confuse newer users by giving them information that is not accurate. So, if there is new learning here for me in terms of how to use the 'Dodge/Burn' tool, then great. I'm always up for that. But whilst reading your post, I couldn't get it to behave in the way that you describe. Whereas, as I already wrote above, this is exactly how the Clone tool behaves.
    The options on dodge / burn and clone are the same - I then describe how to use the clone tool. The GIMP is very consistent in this area. The options are the same for all brush operations. Namely jitter, smooth stroke, hard edge and the dynamics - those can cause some confusion. There are a number of them mostly aimed at tablet use. Basic should be ok with a mouse. Actually I suspect that will have auto selected according to what is fitted to the machine. I have a tablet but often use the mouse and have had the mouse do nothing. I assume because my tablet is pressure sensitive.

    There are a number of options available on dynamics. Which ones can be seen by clicking on the page like icon next to it. D&B can also be set to work on shadows, midtones or highlights. The exposure slider seems to have the same effect as opacity so I leave it at 50%. Combined use would give more delicate use. Dynamics also sets the fade length - how many Px are used at the edge of the brush to bend in. That may be hidden until the dynamics options are clicked.

    Afraid I referred to the operation rather than the name of the tool. Burn rather than Dodge and Burn.

    Should also mention that I am using Linux GIMP 2.8.10. The dodge/burn help with that shows a different panel arrangement but the same controls are available. On my machine F1 help on tools often brings up the toolbox help so next has to be selected until the one that is wanted comes up.

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    Re: If I had the skills I would have removed the dark line. Still and all nice colour

    Brian - it sounds like it's time to upgrade your PP skills. Getting rid of the black spot is very minor cosmetic surgery avaiable in a variety of PP tools.

    Something to play with on a rainy day, perhaps?

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    Re: If I had the skills I would have removed the dark line. Still and all nice colour

    Brian,I agree with Manfred,I like your images and you can make them look better with a few adjustments in PP,so please give it a try

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