View Poll Results: Would it be better to crop out part of the right side?

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  • Yes, placing the subject in the middle of the frame like this one looks like it was shot by my dog.

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  • No, the woman on the background provides an anchor to the whole image.

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Thread: Farmer's wife ... dignity in labor

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    Farmer's wife ... dignity in labor

    Farmer's wife ... dignity in labor

    I like taking candid photos of people but once in a while a subject will make eye contact that can enrich the overall image. She was busy at work and realized that I was about to take her picture so she gave me a nice smile. Then she quickly gave me her business card indicating that she also does windows, plumbing and federal income tax returns. Who would have known that?

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    Re: Farmer's wife ... dignity in labor

    I have already voted for not cropping. IMO although the woman is too centered, cropping doesn't add to the image at all and I also like the woman on the right hand side, she adds to the composition

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    Re: Farmer's wife ... dignity in labor

    Quote Originally Posted by bnnrcn View Post
    I have already voted for not cropping. IMO although the woman is too centered, cropping doesn't add to the image at all and I also like the woman on the right hand side, she adds to the composition
    Thanks for kind response, Binnur. I felt the same way too.

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    Re: Farmer's wife ... dignity in labor

    Good shot Rob. The woman's facial expression in this shot is priceless. I really don't think it matters much whether you crop a small amount off the right or not. The way the woman's head is positioned relative to the cloud pattern makes this shot IMO.

    Good catch.

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    Re: Farmer's wife ... dignity in labor

    Cracking image, Rob. The crop is secondary.

    Dave

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    Re: Farmer's wife ... dignity in labor

    This photo is amazing!!! Love everything about it!!!

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    Re: Farmer's wife ... dignity in labor

    Cropping is up to you Rob, I can't take my eyes away from her smile and how the clouds seem to radiate away from her. Brilliant image mate

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    Re: Farmer's wife ... dignity in labor

    Everyone has given you a good response. I cannot. I am looking at it through a laptop in a bright room. I can see too much clouds in the foreground and highlights from the top of her head and along the back...not a good sight I must say...The pose is OK I suppose. And it will help if you remove the extra farmhand (?) bending on the right side too...

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    This is clearly splitting opinion. No crop for me. The woman on the right and the small figures in the BG form a circle of attention that keeps bringing my eye back to the main subject. So to me they are important. Without the woman on the right, you would just have dead space. I do feel though that the mid tones are a bit light. Needs a little more contrast.- IMHO of course.

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    Re: Farmer's wife ... dignity in labor

    It seems a bit over-processed to me, Rob. As John said, I think it needs a bit more contrast. The field to the left of the woman is darker than on the right; and there is a halo running down her back. It is a compelling composition but I think the whites in the clouds should be pulled down a bit, because they are competing with her face at the moment.

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    Re: Farmer's wife ... dignity in labor

    Quote Originally Posted by dje View Post
    Good shot Rob. The woman's facial expression in this shot is priceless. I really don't think it matters much whether you crop a small amount off the right or not. The way the woman's head is positioned relative to the cloud pattern makes this shot IMO.

    Good catch.

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    Thanks Dave for kind words. Mean a lot.

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    Re: Farmer's wife ... dignity in labor

    Quote Originally Posted by davidedric View Post
    Cracking image, Rob. The crop is secondary.

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    Thanks Dave. Much appreciated.

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    Re: Farmer's wife ... dignity in labor

    Quote Originally Posted by KimC View Post
    This photo is amazing!!! Love everything about it!!!
    You are much too kind, Kim. Thanks for fab response.

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    Re: Farmer's wife ... dignity in labor

    Quote Originally Posted by gregj1763 View Post
    Cropping is up to you Rob, I can't take my eyes away from her smile and how the clouds seem to radiate away from her. Brilliant image mate
    Cheers, Greg. Thanks for kind comment.

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    Re: Farmer's wife ... dignity in labor

    Quote Originally Posted by IzzieK View Post
    I am looking at it through a laptop in a bright room. I can see too much clouds in the foreground and highlights from the top of her head and along the back...not a good sight I must say.
    To borrow the parlance from my mates from the land of Oz, cheers, IzzieK.

    While I wasn't really looking for a critique apart from the cropping, I do thank you for commenting on the overall composition. I'm intrigued with your observation about seeing too much clouds. Have you considered calibrating your laptop's monitor in a bright room?

    Quote Originally Posted by IzzieK View Post
    The pose is OK I suppose.
    You sound like you are not sure. Truthfully, this was not a posed shot. Had it been one, she would have dropped her stuff and gave me the most fabulous pose with her hands akimbo. Or she would have shown me her best kung fu move.

    Quote Originally Posted by IzzieK View Post
    And it will help if you remove the extra farmhand (?) bending on the right side too...
    Thank you. Your dog must know a thing or two about the rule of thirds.

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    Re: Farmer's wife ... dignity in labor

    Quote Originally Posted by John 2 View Post
    This is clearly splitting opinion. No crop for me. The woman on the right and the small figures in the BG form a circle of attention that keeps bringing my eye back to the main subject. So to me they are important. Without the woman on the right, you would just have dead space.
    Thanks, John.

    Quote Originally Posted by John 2 View Post
    I do feel though that the mid tones are a bit light. Needs a little more contrast.- IMHO of course.
    Noted. YMHO is appreciated. Cheers.

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    Re: Farmer's wife ... dignity in labor

    Quote Originally Posted by FootLoose View Post
    It seems a bit over-processed to me, Rob. As John said, I think it needs a bit more contrast. The field to the left of the woman is darker than on the right; and there is a halo running down her back. It is a compelling composition but I think the whites in the clouds should be pulled down a bit, because they are competing with her face at the moment.
    Thanks for commenting, Greg. It is what it is. Plainly, it is a botched shot. The halo running down her back reveals that the subject was underexposed. I sacrificed the contrast in favor of the mid-tones to bring out some detail to the shadows. A choice I have to make here. And trying to pull down the whites in the clouds any further would be like trying to turn lead into gold. But I thought the context would outweigh the technical flaws. But perhaps that was just wishful thinking. Cheers.

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    Re: Farmer's wife ... dignity in labor

    [QUOTE=juznobsrvr;428715]To borrow the parlance from my mates from the land of Oz, cheers, IzzieK.

    While I wasn't really looking for a critique apart from the cropping, I do thank you for commenting on the overall composition. I'm intrigued with your observation about seeing too much clouds. Have you considered calibrating your laptop's monitor in a bright room?[/UNQUOTE]
    No. I have a simple calibrating system for my laptop but I do not think it is necessary for me to do so.. my choice. (See Greg's comments...)



    You sound like you are not sure. Truthfully, this was not a posed shot. Had it been one, she would have dropped her stuff and gave me the most fabulous pose with her hands akimbo. Or she would have shown me her best kung fu move.
    'Sounds like ... ? I said I am not sure because I am looking at your image from my laptop in a very bright room. Taking a shot at me just because I dared comment differently?



    Thank you. Your dog must know a thing or two about the rule of thirds. :-D
    You do not know my dog...so please DO NOT even mention him in posts where it is not appropriate.

    And I agree with Johns' assessment as well. And of course, Greg. Aussies says "Cheerios" not not just "Cheers".
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    Re: Farmer's wife ... dignity in labor

    [QUOTE=IzzieK;428796]
    Quote Originally Posted by juznobsrvr View Post
    Taking a shot at me just because I dared comment differently?
    Sorry, didn't mean that. I thought your post was funny. Cheerios.

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    Re: Farmer's wife ... dignity in labor

    Rob, a great capture, IMHO I do think the crop would work better, I am still very much a newbie at photography and PP. In this image my attention is drawn straight away to the clouds. Then, the ''farmers wife''. I feel the person in the background lends very little to the overall image. I feel the main subject should be the beaming smile. That is awesome.

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