From snapshot to shot

[Radu Dinu Cordeanu]

Now I call You in the "hall" of ANNIE LEIBOVITZ to see a very well dressed woman who feeds a baby.The "guns" are colours,cuttings and superposition.The baby is out from a black hole,from his head is rising a black table lamp.Do You see the gaze,the finger and the nails of this woman?Do You bet the baby gender?
In my opinion this shot is a monument of the woman who knows very very well what she wants.She is a winner who knows her true value.

[Radu Dinu Cordeanu]

("Ok,I hope You understood my irony,now I know who was but it has no importance because I'm an orthodox Christian")

Is anyone among us who ask himself which is the image of the soul?Has the soul sex?In "finley"annie leibovitz show us a beautiful young woman's nude photographed from the rear side.This woman who covered her head with the arms is lying on a couch upon a red dressing gown wearing on her feet large dirty socks.This dressing is like a large coagulate blood stain.When we see such a woman who is not interested in her body (she did not show us her face or her breast or her sex),who "deleted" her body,we should have to ask what does it remain?ANNIE LEIBOVITZ gave us her answer.
Thank You for reading, translating in a true English and understanding,of course.
Radu Dinu

[Radu Dinu Cordeanu]

Hi.
Because James Yu said "CC are always welcome" I dared to sugest him my opinion in a photographic form because my English is too poorly.Of coourse such framing will be possible in the case You will see the same situation.Lasso,move, erase and 40 min I used to show You such framing.As You see the last has more impact.
Of course I asked myself how should I photograph such situation.My answer was much more wrong.It is easier to be on a side and look at the actors and tell what You consider wrong in their play but I always remember my sport teacher who said do like me and never do like I told you about.
Thank You
Radu Dinu

[carregwen]

Agree. The edits have more impact than the original. It's still a very strange scene though!

[Wirefox]

From snapshot to shot

My view is that regardless of technical competency, aptitude, creative input ‘The Shot’ is the one that can distract, disgust, disturb, enlighten, sadden or just a give a tingling in the unspeakable regions. In other words it is a visual prompt that induces an involuntary emotional response that separates the prosaic snapshot from ‘The Shot’. This response is as different as each of us is to one another, and further complicated by background, upbringing, experience and temperament. I took a long look at some of Ms Liebovitz work and some of it prompts these responses some of it does not. Does this mean that Wendy’s green fields shot makes her a better photographer than Ms Liebovitz. Well yes it does and no it doesn’t. Wendy’s shot triggered a memory for me and that makes it a first rate photograph for me. I had no involuntary response to much of the Liebovitz work. This means that for this particular individual Wendy is a better photographer than Annie in at least one instance.

Now this random human response may be confusing for the compartmentalists (AKA Guardian readers). So in order to establish success and popularity the photographer has to be able to create as many shots as possible that prompt generic human responses. All these responses are skin deep because they are reactions that are taught to us by popular media and mass distribution of generic emotion (we are taught an acceptable reaction when confronted with certain media). In addition to this it makes it far easier for the middle class art columnist to earn a crust if he or she can apply rules and convince us that if images that do not meet certain technical prerequisites relating to lighting, composition and style they are not worthy. This is where it all becomes a little worrying since the middle classes are educated and trained from birth to be creatures of control and orderliness. This is a massive contradiction to true art since true art is born of the raw spirit which is both disorderly and out of control. So popular art is promoted and judged for the masses by people like Tony Blair. This ensures that popular art has been sanitised, checked, tested and guaranteed not to evoke emotions that are seen to be a threat to their ordered world.

This is not to say that we are not allowed the odd tease of the raw spirit because bringing the unknown artists to the front can be lucrative. But X factor art is usually institutionalised after the auditions, otherwise it becomes threatening to the bank managers drawing room.

So after all that waffle I can conclude that one mans snapshot is another mans route to the heart. This fact transcends rules, regulations and CS5. It is unpredictable and a key to the inner soul. It cannot be jailed, institutionalised or sold gift wrapped in Marks and Spencers. It is ours and ours to judge alone. It can be scary, we can train ourselves to ignore the stirrings but in the end that snapshot may be the key to our deepest emotions.

I did warn you before that I have a Masters in Bo**ocks

Steve

Point of clarification: I refer to the Middle Classes as a generic institution rather than a logo that is sported on ones t-shirt to defines ones financial well being

[Radu Dinu Cordeanu]

Hi
Too long, too Shakespearean, too socialist to be to my taste but... welcome!
The image below could be an answer.

Thank You for reading and understanding
Radu Dinu

[Wirefox]

Thanks Radu although I do not concede that my disillusion with the cash managing classes is down to socialism. We have far to much evidence in recent history that socialism is neither preferable nor sustainable.....and it is far too long

Steve

[carregwen]

Thanks Radu although I do not concede that my disillusion with the cash managing classes is down to socialism. We have far to much evidence in recent history that socialism is neither preferable nor sustainable.....and it is far too long

Steve

Actually, I thought it was rather restrained compared to your usual standard - is that, perhaps, the effect of the recession? You didn't mention Audis once!

PS: I do enjoy reading your comments.

[Wirefox]

is that, perhaps, the effect of the recession? You didn't mention Audis once!

You could be right..it is not hard to become disillusioned when Captain Mainwaring has pogged off with the cash, left Private Pike in charge and sold Walker his Audi. We even had Fraser in charge at one point....were doomed, doomed I tell ye

Steve

[carregwen]

You could be right..it is not hard to become disillusioned when Captain Mainwaring has pogged off with the cash, left Private Pike in charge and sold Walker his Audi. We even had Fraser in charge at one point....were doomed, doomed I tell ye

Steve

I'd like to think there's a silent army spread across the globe quietely watching re-runs of Dad's Army and thereby know exactly what you just said. Colin, for example, in NZ, wistfully gazing at the screen and thinking 'Gosh! I wish I was back in the old country...'

[Klickit]

I'd like to think there's a silent army spread across the globe quietely watching re-runs of Dad's Army and thereby know exactly what you just said. Colin, for example, in NZ, wistfully gazing at the screen and thinking 'Gosh! I wish I was back in the old country...'

Um...yeah, right. Musta lost my wist somewhere...

[Radu Dinu Cordeanu]

Hi to both of You
Today less and less people understand that from the beginnings to nowadays the leaders are thieves and killers.In the past, one became leader taking the woman who he liked, taking the goods which he liked from the weaks.They transformed themselfs ,in time,into a class because the weaks cannot react.When one becomes the leader of the weaks his goal remains to take the goods of another leaders and so on and so on.There are two possibilities to remain weak or to become thief and killer.
Radu Dinu

[Colin Southern]

Um...yeah, right. Musta lost my wist somewhere...

Sounds a bit like my "get up and go" ...

... it's "got up and gone"

[carregwen]

Hi to both of You
Today less and less people understand that from the beginnings to nowadays the leaders are thieves and killers.In the past, one became leader taking the woman who he liked, taking the goods which he liked from the weaks.They transformed themselfs ,in time,into a class because the weaks cannot react.When one becomes the leader of the weaks his goal remains to take the goods of another leaders and so on and so on.There are two possibilities to remain weak or to become thief and killer.
Radu Dinu

Radu

I've always thought that if 'The meek shall inherit the earth...' they had better get a move on, as time is running out! Or as J. Paul Getty once said "The meek shall inherit the earth, but not the mineral rights."

[Wirefox]

Hi to both of You
Today less and less people understand that from the beginnings to nowadays the leaders are thieves and killers.In the past, one became leader taking the woman who he liked, taking the goods which he liked from the weaks.They transformed themselfs ,in time,into a class because the weaks cannot react.When one becomes the leader of the weaks his goal remains to take the goods of another leaders and so on and so on.There are two possibilities to remain weak or to become thief and killer.
Radu Dinu

Hi Radu,Not quite how I would have put it but yes history would generally support that observation. Except that endemically, on that basis, we are all weak because there is always someone with more cash more cars and less scruples. The difference with the rise in world capitalism is that instead of the kids in the playground following the wise one, the fighter, the leader, the middle classes follow the runt with acne and a satchel full of Bazooka Joes. As long as some well heeled kid with a floppy hairdo is leaving a trail of sweeties there will always be those on there hands and knees who will happily follow the trail.

I had better get some photography done....

[arith]

My view is that regardless of technical competency, aptitude, creative input ‘The Shot’ is the one that can distract, disgust, disturb, enlighten, sadden or just a give a tingling in the unspeakable regions. In other words it is a visual prompt that induces an involuntary emotional response that separates the prosaic snapshot from ‘The Shot’. This response is as different as each of us is to one another, and further complicated by background, upbringing, experience and temperament. I took a long look at some of Ms Liebovitz work and some of it prompts these responses some of it does not. Does this mean that Wendy’s green fields shot makes her a better photographer than Ms Liebovitz. Well yes it does and no it doesn’t. Wendy’s shot triggered a memory for me and that makes it a first rate photograph for me. I had no involuntary response to much of the Liebovitz work. This means that for this particular individual Wendy is a better photographer than Annie in at least one instance.

Now this random human response may be confusing for the compartmentalists (AKA Guardian readers). So in order to establish success and popularity the photographer has to be able to create as many shots as possible that prompt generic human responses. All these responses are skin deep because they are reactions that are taught to us by popular media and mass distribution of generic emotion (we are taught an acceptable reaction when confronted with certain media). In addition to this it makes it far easier for the middle class art columnist to earn a crust if he or she can apply rules and convince us that if images that do not meet certain technical prerequisites relating to lighting, composition and style they are not worthy. This is where it all becomes a little worrying since the middle classes are educated and trained from birth to be creatures of control and orderliness. This is a massive contradiction to true art since true art is born of the raw spirit which is both disorderly and out of control. So popular art is promoted and judged for the masses by people like Tony Blair. This ensures that popular art has been sanitised, checked, tested and guaranteed not to evoke emotions that are seen to be a threat to their ordered world.

This is not to say that we are not allowed the odd tease of the raw spirit because bringing the unknown artists to the front can be lucrative. But X factor art is usually institutionalised after the auditions, otherwise it becomes threatening to the bank managers drawing room.

So after all that waffle I can conclude that one mans snapshot is another mans route to the heart. This fact transcends rules, regulations and CS5. It is unpredictable and a key to the inner soul. It cannot be jailed, institutionalised or sold gift wrapped in Marks and Spencers. It is ours and ours to judge alone. It can be scary, we can train ourselves to ignore the stirrings but in the end that snapshot may be the key to our deepest emotions.

I did warn you before that I have a Masters in Bo**ocks

Steve

Point of clarification: I refer to the Middle Classes as a generic institution rather than a logo that is sported on ones t-shirt to defines ones financial well being

Yes....

Ahh the middle classes; in the past referred to Victorian gentry who had the means and temperament to make things better for everybody, and now people with the means and temperament to make things better for themselves.

[Radu Dinu Cordeanu]

Radu

I've always thought that if 'The meek shall inherit the earth...' they had better get a move on, as time is running out! Or as J. Paul Getty once said "The meek shall inherit the earth, but not the mineral rights."

Hi,
Of course.
There are many quatations which say the same things but much softer.

We may look for here.
Radu Dinu

[arith]

'Money isn't everything', and 'the meek shall inherit the earth'; are just things put about by greedy rich b******s that would like you to think that your lot isn't so bad.
The trouble is the greedy rich cannot empathise with anybody that doesn't worship money or have the same greed for possessions, if you haven't the hunger for more dosh you are just not ambitious, they do not have a concept of having enough.
They also mistake greed for strength, but it is in fact a weakness that inevitably leads to misery in never having enough and being a failure and imposes misery on the rest of us because they steal what little we have to live on.

Has this got anything to do with photography? Well only in the way the photographer can show inequality and differences.

[Radu Dinu Cordeanu]

Yes "Arith",few minutes ago I saw your opinion.I'll tell You my opinion into another day because today I looked at a Carregwen's beautiful pony. I hope Rob will not upset because I dared to do second ear and decreased lens distorsion alterning bloat and pocker tool as You see below



Thank You for reading and understanding
Radu Dinu

PS to lick 60 pounds could be a pleasure... sometimes

[carregwen]

I looked at a Carregwen's beautiful pony. I hope Rob will not upset because I dared to do second ear and decreased lens distorsion alterning bloat and pocker tool as You see below

(Spoken in Clint Eastwood accent) "I reckon no man messes with ma horse and lives to tell the tale. I guess I'll be seeing yows (Spits tobacco juice onto the floor) outside the saloon. You might wanna call at that there undertakers first to get measured up like..."

Sorry about that... Yes he looks OK with an extra ear. If truth be told, I never really noticed he was missing one - I was too taken with his captivating expression as he was about to kiss me. Ever been kissed by a horse before, Radu? Or shot by Clint Eastwood? The trouble with you East Europeans is you don't know how to enjoy yourselves!