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    Late summer sunset in corn field C&C welcomed

    Hopefully I am getting better looking for the right light. This was taken this evening ISO 400; 100mm; F 4.0; 1/160 sec Processed a bit in Lightroom which I am learning. Thanks for looking and providing feedback. I did receive that book this week - Light - Science and Magic :-)

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    Re: Late summer sunset in corn field C&C welcomed

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    Late summer sunset in corn field  C&C welcomed
    Very nice composition Kim!

    For the record. — you are facing two great difficulties here:
    • luminosity
    • colour temperature

    Luminosity: the challenge here is to "balance" the high keys of the
    part of the scene that is sunlit and the lower key of the corn field. You did
    well but there are still trunks that are burnt.

    Colour temperature: this is the harder part! This cannot be resolved
    in a RAW converter contrary to eventual luminosity difficulties that may be
    "controlled" through layered adjustments. Colour temperature issues may be
    resolved through layered adjustments in more powerful editors like PS.

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    Re: Late summer sunset in corn field C&C welcomed

    Hi Kodiak I have a question. I'm quite a fan of landscape, sunset and sun rise shots and I follow some websites and read somebooks about my interest to see some more examples of these kinds. What I see in those examples is that, sometimes the colour casts/temperatures or some unbalanced light don't cause a problem and in fact they add to the image . I like Kim's shot and I don't see your points about this shot as a problem. Those burnt trunks look super to me and I love the color temperature. So, I'm a bit confused. Am I right or wrong

    I would also very much like to see your edit with corrected colour temperature as a part of my learning curve. Thanks in advance


    Quote Originally Posted by Kodiak View Post
    Very nice composition Kim!

    For the record. — you are facing two great difficulties here:
    • luminosity
    • colour temperature

    Luminosity: the challenge here is to "balance" the high keys of the
    part of the scene that is sunlit and the lower key of the corn field. You did
    well but there are still trunks that are burnt.

    Colour temperature: this is the harder part! This cannot be resolved
    in a RAW converter contrary to eventual luminosity difficulties that may be
    "controlled" through layered adjustments. Colour temperature issues may be
    resolved through layered adjustments in more powerful editors like PS.

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    Hi Binnur

    If the picture is perfect to you… I'm ok with that.

    Since she's opened to C&C, I posted my appreciation on the composition and
    the way she resolved the greater part of the luminosity challenge in the take.

    Kim also mentioned that she is putting some time in learning her software and
    even acquired a book about light…

    She clearly demonstrates both interest and great motivation… my post only
    wished to support her enthusiasm and efforts!

    —"Am I right or wrong?— You're the only one to answer that. What I know is
    that everyone in a forum is legitimately entitle to his/hers opinion and taste.
    I am sharing my experience and walking on anyone's foot is nor an ambition
    nor a goal.

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    Re: Late summer sunset in corn field C&C welcomed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kodiak View Post

    Hi Binnur

    If the picture is perfect to you… I'm ok with that.

    Since she's opened to C&C, I posted my appreciation on the composition and
    the way she resolved the greater part of the luminosity challenge in the take.

    Kim also mentioned that she is putting some time in learning her software and
    even acquired a book about light…

    She clearly demonstrates both interest and great motivation… my post only
    wished to support her enthusiasm and efforts!

    —"Am I right or wrong?— You're the only one to answer that. What I know is
    that everyone in a forum is legitimately entitle to his/hers opinion and taste.
    I am sharing my experience and walking on anyone's foot is nor an ambition
    nor a goal.
    Thank you Kodiak for your detailed critique and explanation of what you were referring to. As I am trying hard to educate my eyes, I would also appreciate a demonstration of how the trunks could be displayed. I would also love to see what a master could do with the color temp in this picture. As mentioned in other posts, my preferred method of learning is seeing/doing. As always, thank you for providing your thoughts.

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    Re: Late summer sunset in corn field C&C welcomed

    Nicely captured, I often have difficulty photographing trees, always wanting more detail within the leaves. You have avoided that problem by presenting the trees as shapes and colors; something I should try to achieve.

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    Re: Late summer sunset in corn field C&C welcomed

    I agree with Kodiak on all points.

    To deal with the issue of the color temperature, I made three adjustments very quickly (surely too quickly):

    • Added a mixture of green and blue to the bright light on the tree bark to eliminate the magenta color cast
    • Increased the warmth of everything else by adding red to everything but the bright light on the tree bark
    • Not yet satisfied with the corn patch, added a combination of red and green tones to that area


    Keep in mind that there are lots of valid ways to make this scene. This is just my very quick change to what I had hoped to see when I first saw Kim's photo.


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    Re: Late summer sunset in corn field C&C welcomed

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Buckley View Post
    I agree with Kodiak on all points.

    To deal with the issue of the color temperature, I made three adjustments very quickly (surely too quickly):

    • Added a mixture of green and blue to the bright light on the tree bark to eliminate the magenta color cast
    • Increased the warmth of everything else by adding red to everything but the bright light on the tree bark
    • Not yet satisfied with the corn patch, added a combination of red and green tones to that area


    Keep in mind that there are lots of valid ways to make this scene. This is just my very quick change to what I had hoped to see when I first saw Kim's photo.


    Late summer sunset in corn field  C&C welcomed
    Thank you Mike for making the adjustments to the image. Your adjustments look subtile ... But perhaps that's because I have a less experienced eye. I know as time goes on, and I continue to learn, my eye will develop (looking forward to that). I appreciate this forum and the willingness of the experts to discuss/demonstrate/illustrate technique.

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    Re: Late summer sunset in corn field C&C welcomed

    Quote Originally Posted by KimC View Post
    Your adjustments look subtile ... But perhaps that's because I have a less experienced eye.
    That's because your photo was such a good start that I didn't need to make huge changes to the color balance.

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    Re: Late summer sunset in corn field C&C welcomed

    I rather like the original. In Lightroom you can adjust the white balance by changing the color temperature. You may want to try adjusting the temp up and down a little at a time to see if you like the changes. Just my $0.02.

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    Re: Late summer sunset in corn field C&C welcomed

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Buckley View Post
    That's because your photo was such a good start…
    Right on!

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    Thank you Mike for showing us an edit . I agree with Kim that the adjustments look really subtle and I agree with you that Kim's original was a very good start


    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Buckley View Post
    That's because your photo was such a good start that I didn't need to make huge changes to the color balance.
    Last edited by bnnrcn; 29th August 2014 at 05:25 PM.

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    Re: Late summer sunset in corn field C&C welcomed

    Hi Kodiak. We always learn this way in CinC. We ask questions and we talk to each other about confusions and opinions. So , I didn't mean anything bad in my post #3 . Please don't get me wrong



    Quote Originally Posted by Kodiak View Post

    Hi Binnur

    If the picture is perfect to you… I'm ok with that.

    Since she's opened to C&C, I posted





    my appreciation on the composition and
    the way she resolved the greater part of the luminosity challenge in the take.

    Kim also mentioned that she is putting some time in learning her software and
    even acquired a book about light…

    She clearly demonstrates both interest and great motivation… my post only
    wished to support her enthusiasm and efforts!

    —"Am I right or wrong?— You're the only one to answer that. What I know is
    that everyone in a forum is legitimately entitle to his/hers opinion and taste.
    I am sharing my experience and walking on anyone's foot is nor an ambition
    nor a goal.
    Last edited by bnnrcn; 30th August 2014 at 02:44 AM.

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