Yesterdays Lunch

[ajohnw]

There doesn't seem to be a category for this. Never tried it before so excuse me but I thought I would try and avoid the usual facebook approach.

The place - bit much for an E-P3



The meal as it progressed.




















Not sure why I had a slight grey edge on the ice cream. And who says m 4/3 has too large a depth of field. These are marginal really.

John
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[Shadowman]

I think the E-P3 handled the area very well, usually have too much noise in an image like this.

[ajohnw]

I haven't thrown any decent noise removal software at it. Just something called a top hat filter that softens slightly. Hand held at 1/15 sec at F8. That one had to be from raw so I could have filtered it more. They are all relatively low speed shots.

The other shots aren't as I would have expected in a slight fashion - just found out why. The digital zoom was on and they are all mildly worked on jpg's. I suspect that may explains the grey streak in the ice cream. The all plastic 14-42mm is a very sharp lens so certain aspects would be better without it.

I haven't used the camera for some time.

John
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[IzzieK]

Makes my mouth water...I just love buffet restaurants! 'Fact we are going to one this Friday night at Hibachi Grill. They have good selections too. Only thing I wouldn't eat in them and in any restaurants are the fresh salads...'had a bad experience with them no matter how expensive the place is.

[ajohnw]

This one is £6.99 a head and as much as you want to eat Izzie - off peak which means day time week days. A bit dearer weekends and more in the evenings. The Guinness isn't a bad price either - for a restaurant. Curious thing is that Chinese beer doesn't go well with too much food - gassy tummy.

I've used a lettuce leaf to roll round a number of things there - no harm yet - touch wood.

John
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[Shadowman]

I haven't thrown any decent noise removal software at it. Just something called a top hat filter that softens slightly. Hand held at 1/15 sec at F8. That one had to be from raw so I could have filtered it more. They are all relatively low speed shots.

The other shots aren't as I would have expected in a slight fashion - just found out why. The digital zoom was on and they are all mildly worked on jpg's. I suspect that may explains the grey streak in the ice cream. The all plastic 14-42mm is a very sharp lens so certain aspects would be better without it.

I haven't used the camera for some time.

John
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I've used that lens on the EPL1 and it does struggle in low light, but works very well when conditions are balanced.

[IzzieK]

Lettuce in the roll is OK...what I get sick on eating out is the mixture of other stuffs with lettuce...P.F. Chang's lettuce rolls is actually good. Other than that, no raw vegetables for me outside of the house when we go out go for a quickie meal. Being an ex-islander, I tend to go to the trays of seafood first and last. The place that we frequent do not serve beer nor any kind of alcohol...just soda and tea.

This one is £6.99 a head and as much as you want to eat Izzie - off peak which means day time week days. A bit dearer weekends and more in the evenings. The Guinness isn't a bad price either - for a restaurant. Curious thing is that Chinese beer doesn't go well with too much food - gassy tummy.

I've used a lettuce leaf to roll round a number of things there - no harm yet - touch wood.

John
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[ajohnw]

I've used that lens on the EPL1 and it does struggle in low light, but works very well when conditions are balanced.

I was amazed by the number of things that improved on the E-P3 compared with the E-PL1. Even noise in the viewfinder at lower light levels. Not up to the standards of the E-M5. With that one I have taken shots in places where I can hardly see and the camera can see clearly with live view boost on. I'd guess that all of the newer E's may be up to that standard now. The only thing I don't like about it is the way the clip on view finder sticks up. The height of the camera body is just a bit lower than the E-M5 and that has the viewfinder built in. I haven't weighed them but would guess that there isn't much in it.

One of the surprising things about the E-P3 is the amount of dark detail that can be recovered within limits from camera jpg's. It's what started me on why bother using raw in situations where it isn't needed.

I mostly took it out because I have realised I can't use all of my cameras all of the time so there is a need to make my mind up about keepers. I suspect that the E-M5 will finish up with the 14-42mm pancake lens on it for this sort of use providing there isn't too much difference in weight.

It's the 12mp E-P3 that may have been upgraded to 16mp now. Not sure.

John
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[Shadowman]

I was amazed by the number of things that improved on the E-P3 compared with the E-PL1. Even noise in the viewfinder at lower light levels. Not up to the standards of the E-M5. With that one I have taken shots in places where I can hardly see and the camera can see clearly with live view boost on. I'd guess that all of the newer E's may be up to that standard now. The only thing I don't like about it is the way the clip on view finder sticks up. The height of the camera body is just a bit lower than the E-M5 and that has the viewfinder built in. I haven't weighed them but would guess that there isn't much in it.

One of the surprising things about the E-P3 is the amount of dark detail that can be recovered within limits from camera jpg's. It's what started me on why bother using raw in situations where it isn't needed.

I mostly took it out because I have realised I can't use all of my cameras all of the time so there is a need to make my mind up about keepers. I suspect that the E-M5 will finish up with the 14-42mm pancake lens on it for this sort of use providing there isn't too much difference in weight.

It's the 12mp E-P3 that may have been upgraded to 16mp now. Not sure.

John
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My local camera store recently had a buy back program, had I known of the improvements I would have considered an upgrade. It's so hard to let go though. I still use the EPL-1, mostly during events where a smaller camera is less intrusive, I always had issues with the EPL-1 in dimly lit convention halls; especially those with high ceilings. Would love a small camera that could handle those lighting conditions.

[ajohnw]

I used it at 1600 ISO but lacking decent noise removal software at the time set it up so that auto used it and allowed ISO to go up to 1600. So in hall conditions without much light I just switched to auto or when ever I needed it to save messing about. This one is 1/50 sec F5.3 with the 40-150mm on. Just a link as it's the full image. SOOC and Oly do really turn things off if set.

http://backup.cambridgeincolour.com/...04507/original

The full exif shows 116mm, 16m, Contrast,Sharpness and Saturation normal as is the tone curve. The noise filter is set to Standard. Noise reduction 2 off. Looks like keep warm tones is on. I only recently realised that this only does anything under certain lighting conditions.

My other reason for setting this up was who knows what sort of noise removal the sensor needs - the camera manufacturer. I still wonder about this after leaving it on by accident on the E-M1 as it was set in 2 places. It was very effective at a rather high iso setting. Wouldn't it be weird if the camera was better than or equal to any PP package. I often bake jpg's extensively - comment for the bake or buy a cake fraternity.

My general impression of these E cameras is that it's fine looking out of the window and saying 400 wouldn't be a bad idea today, cloudy dull days etc, Past that I have only taken a few more to see what the camera can do than anything else.

John
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[ajohnw]

Out of interest John I have been asking myself the next question. Keep the E-M5 especially as I would like the 14-42mm pancake lens to go with it. The E-M10 comes bundled with it in the UK. It's also smaller. Doubt if I will change but compared with an E-P3 I would definitely go for the E-M10 for the ease with which it can be controlled. Noise wise going on dpreview it's comparable with a D7000. Maybe better in some respects.

It looks like the E-M10 doesn't have any hang ups on how the buttons can be configured and also has the built in flash which I feel is essential on a camera like that.

John
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