PP Upgrade Conundrum

[ajohnw]

I found that if sellers pack themselves rather than using USPS's boxes it often works out cheaper. The USA is a big place too so packing aught to be adequate. First class doesn't seem to be used that often. Airmail is dirt cheap for small light items.

I had an entire pretty heavy microscope shipped from the USA. A Nikon Optiphot via USPS and the shipping costs didn't put me off. People are having to rely on the shipper packing well and adequately due to insurance complications. I suspect the shear size of N.America helps in that respect.

I can offer the same as Ted but even the item cost is likely to be lower in the USA but if a shop in the UK exports to you they wouldn't or shouldn't charge 20% VAT. If I buy - no way round it. I always insist on pre payment too. Paypal is the easiest way of doing that. A couple of people haven't used the fee paid option too. I'm not keen on that.

John
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[Stagecoach]

An update, and some progress

Even though your monitor is new, it's possible that an updated driver is required. It's also possible that the driver has become corrupted.

The conclusion I have come to Mike is that the driver was corrupted/defective on the CD supplied and the two separate websites I downloaded it from as well.

Pc's are a pain Grahame - when they don't do what is wanted.

I have regularly replaced monitors over the years and have never before had one that with its drivers loaded and on it's default OSD settings did not immediately produce an acceptable picture (I'm not talking perfect calibration) whether working in Windows or my editing software.

If I was on my machine when you mentioned getting another monitor I would have posted this link. My machine might be on line all day but I'm not.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/icc_profiles.htm

This link with it's profiles, OSD settings, explanations and procedure really helped me John.

Firstly I found with the supposed 'correct' profile (three copies from three sources) that there was no way I could adjust within the OSD to overcome the appalling colour within the realms of the examples shown. In addition whatever I did the warning remained on opening PSE or PSCC that the display driver was defective.

I then downloaded a profile for another model by the same manufacturer (my model not listed) loaded it as per the procedure and hey presto everything looks good and no PS display warnings. My OSD settings are as suggested for that driver and basically as per the default settings.

So I'll have another search for a different source for the supposed correct driver/profile as I now know how to change these very quickly but if not successful will continue to use the one loaded now and it may need very very minor tweaks.

I reckon you could get a colorimeter if you wanted.

This is something I may consider John.

Sourcing and buying anything from outside Fiji is not a problem and I have a daughter in UK that can post anything to me. The problem is that if the normal postal service is used even with the 'signed' for types of service things very often do not end up in my hands

Our system here is that post arrives at the main airport, is then transported to the city I live in, the sorter then sends a notice (by post) to the addressee (I use a banks postal address which my partner works for), if the addressee receives this notice they then go to collect the parcel. If the customs guy is in a good mood you may get away with the 27% that he is entitled to take for 'luxury' goods, including postal costs and also add VAT to that lot

I have had approximately a 50% success rate of actually receiving whatever has been sent and unlike the UK it's impossible to find where something has been lost or let alone track it.

Specialist couriers can be used but of course the cost goes way up.

When I lived in UK and as a regular user of such sources as Ebay, Amazon and ordering online I never ever had a problem and was amazed that I could order something from Hong Kong one day and in two days it came through my letterbox. If I was out the nice postman put a card through the door telling me my item was at a location 2 minutes away and could be collected within working hours. You don't know how lucky you are there-

Grahame,

I would be happy to buy an item and ship it to you, should you feel the need . . ..

Thank you for the kind offer Ted.

[Mike Buckley]

It's good to see that the human won out over the computer system. It doesn't happen often enough.

[jcuknz]

Why do I see absolutely no banding at 100 or 400% on my monitor It is an LED AOC ...

[IzzieK]

How kind....

Grahame,

Here's shipping costs from USA to Fiji based on medium-small package:

Priority Mail Medium Flat-rate Box $61.75
Priority Mail Medium Small-rate Box $24.75
International First-class Parcels up to 8lb $12.75

Info as of Jan 26, 2014.

I would be happy to buy an item and ship it to you, should you feel the need . . .

. . . but in June I shipped a camera sensor to a friend in Oz (first-class parcel) and it never left the USA. Came back from Chicago in September going on about incorrect address format, glurk. Priority mail would be my choice anyway.

[Stagecoach]

Why do I see absolutely no banding at 100 or 400% on my monitor It is an LED AOC ...

John,

Having just purchased an AOC LED monitor apart from it's unusable colour profile the other thing that struck me was a rather confusing label (below) stuck to the top outer edge of the screen;



The monitor was within a thin polystyrene type bag and all its plastic/brushed ally surfaces were covered by a thin clear plastic film, obvious for protection and easily removed.

Now just what was that label advising the person unpacking that monitor?

a) Remove the panel film slowly rather than by ripping that may cause damage.

or

b) Do not remove the film on the panel.

Neither the box, manual or anything within the blurb refers to a screen/panel film

As for the gradient banding I can cure it by removing my glasses

Grahame

[IzzieK]

John,

Having just purchased an AOC LED monitor apart from it's unusable colour profile the other thing that struck me was a rather confusing label (below) stuck to the top outer edge of the screen;



The monitor was within a thin polystyrene type bag and all its plastic/brushed ally surfaces were covered by a thin clear plastic film, obvious for protection and easily removed.

Now just what was that label advising the person unpacking that monitor?

a) Remove the panel film slowly rather than by ripping that may cause damage.

or

b) Do not remove the film on the panel.

Neither the box, manual or anything within the blurb refers to a screen/panel film

Instructions thereof are for Fijians who speaks English but have a hard time trying to understand what they mean? Just guessing....

As for the gradient banding I can cure it by removing my glasses
Grahame

Ooops sorry....I did not hear this one....

[Stagecoach]

Instructions thereof are for Fijians who speaks English but have a hard time trying to understand what they mean? Just guessing....

Hi Izzie, they are monitors made in China and sold worldwide and I suspect just a poor choice of wording.

But as there was no obvious protective film on the screen (as I have had before on monitors and TVs) every time I look at it now I wonder if that edge of what could be a perfectly placed and smooth film that can be seen is something that needs removing

I'll enquire with the guys in the shop where I purchased it.

Grahame

[ajohnw]

John,

Having just purchased an AOC LED monitor apart from it's unusable colour profile the other thing that struck me was a rather confusing label (below) stuck to the top outer edge of the screen;



The monitor was within a thin polystyrene type bag and all its plastic/brushed ally surfaces were covered by a thin clear plastic film, obvious for protection and easily removed.

Now just what was that label advising the person unpacking that monitor?

a) Remove the panel film slowly rather than by ripping that may cause damage.

or

b) Do not remove the film on the panel.

Neither the box, manual or anything within the blurb refers to a screen/panel film

As for the gradient banding I can cure it by removing my glasses

Grahame

I thought glasses might be the problem Grahame. I need them at short distances. A pain and can cause now you see now you don't problems.

Some panels do have a sort of plastic film over them that can be seen easily. I have a dell lap top like that. It's anti glare / reflections. Maybe some people try to remove it but I would have thought it's edges disappear under the bezel. My Dell monitor doesn't reflect much either but no sign of a film over it.

John
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[Stagecoach]

I thought glasses might be the problem Grahame. I need them at short distances. A pain and can cause now you see now you don't problems.

John
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John, the glasses comment was a joke

Why do I see absolutely no banding at 100 or 400% on my monitor It is an LED AOC ...

followed by,

As for the gradient banding I can cure it by removing my glasses

At least what I have confirmed now is that the same happens with both a different monitor and a different graphics card fitted. I'm going to give up looking for a solution and put it down to the poor frequency control of our power distribution system here

Grahame

[ajohnw]

John, the glasses comment was a joke



followed by,



At least what I have confirmed now is that the same happens with both a different monitor and a different graphics card fitted. I'm going to give up looking for a solution and put it down to the poor frequency control of our power distribution system here

Grahame

I would wonder about the histogram of the one you posted 1st - marginal in terms of not showing banding in my view even on a perfect monitor. It may be more apparent when a solid colour is varied over a brightness range with a histogram like that. Why are there gaps - looks like jpg's just produce a rippled top that shouldn't be noticeable.

I do notice some effects from wearing glasses at times - usually if I stare at something too hard and for too long rather than just looking at it,

John
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[IzzieK]

That was a tongue-in-cheeks comment, Grahame...

Hi Izzie, they are monitors made in China and sold worldwide and I suspect just a poor choice of wording.

But as there was no obvious protective film on the screen (as I have had before on monitors and TVs) every time I look at it now I wonder if that edge of what could be a perfectly placed and smooth film that can be seen is something that needs removing

I'll enquire with the guys in the shop where I purchased it.

Grahame