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    A first trial, natural light with sun too low and restricted for time now.

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    Not sure if this comes under architecture, pets or people but I sure know what this tomato's name is

    Need to go get a coffee and think about some poses.

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    Interesting capture.

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    Personal preference is the top one , better contrast with the back ground better color range and great sharpness.

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    If you convert these to B&W, I'd have to think that Edward Weston gave up on the peppers and is trying a new vegetable.

    Both are interesting, but find the lighting too flat. The subject matter almost screams for long shadows.

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    Aah...never mind...won't say anything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowman View Post
    Interesting capture.
    I thought so too John, for the obvious reasons

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    Quote Originally Posted by selig1656 View Post
    Personal preference is the top one , better contrast with the back ground better color range and great sharpness.
    My objective here Raymond will be to try and get a good shot of each view. Agree the top one is showing a better separation between the background, I suspect the overall light intensity had increased here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyDiver View Post
    If you convert these to B&W, I'd have to think that Edward Weston gave up on the peppers and is trying a new vegetable.

    Both are interesting, but find the lighting too flat. The subject matter almost screams for long shadows.
    That's exactly what I was after Manfred, a clue as to how to work the lighting. For info neither image has had any PP yet other than WB correction and minor sharpening.

    I'll progress with the natural light for now to see if I can decrease the flatness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chauncey View Post
    Aah...never mind...won't say anything...
    But it could have been useful?

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    Ambient lighting has become too diffused due to clouds to achieve increased shadow and contrast so I've attempted some flash addition on this one.

    My thoughts, too much light on left hand side (due to reflector) and shadow possibly improved if going towards the front?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stagecoach View Post
    But it could have been useful?
    Maybe not...but he must mean to say that all he saw are a pair of freckled orange red boobs. I know I did.... Thanks for the entertainment of the day. I needed that badly.

    Anyway, I cannot make up my mind which one is better...

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    Quote Originally Posted by IzzieK View Post
    Maybe not...but he must mean to say that all he saw are a pair of freckled orange red boobs. I know I did.... Thanks for the entertainment of the day. I needed that badly.

    Anyway, I cannot make up my mind which one is better...
    Hi Izzie,

    It kept me amused for a few hours but I gave in eventually as was frustrated lining things up on the one single clean sheet of A4 I had, some plonker used the large white sheets of card for making flash diffusers and never replaced them

    If it's not used in my dinner tonight or attacked by lizards and I get some card I may get a chance to have another go tomorrow

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    I have been struggling to work out how to photograph things like this and have not succeeded yet. From a technical point of view, what worried me about the first two images was the light areas around the edges which spoilt the definition of the edge. The third one does not have that problem.

    In any case they are nice fun pictures.

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    doesn't seem to matter if it is number 1 or number 2 they both are bottoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyW View Post
    I have been struggling to work out how to photograph things like this and have not succeeded yet. From a technical point of view, what worried me about the first two images was the light areas around the edges which spoilt the definition of the edge. The third one does not have that problem.

    In any case they are nice fun pictures.
    Tony,

    I'm glad you have mentioned the whitish areas around coming inwards from the edges because these puzzled me.

    Firstly for info the first two images which were lit by ambient light from the front were simply shot by taking a meter (matrix) reading of the paper, increasing by 2 stops, placing the tomato there and pressing the shutter, in other words no thought put into them at all The exposures showed just very minimal clipping at the top edge of the paper with nothing on the tomatoes.

    What I found was that these were evident to differing degrees however I exposed the image and also on both sides even when window light was primarily from one direction.

    When I started using flash to assist with the shadows which was positioned above to the side aiming down at 45 deg roughly the white/lighter area reduced significantly on the edge the flash hit, as can be seen in No 3.

    My present theory is that tomatoes have a translucent outer skin and this is what is causing the phenomena, but I'd love to know the reason for certain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBW View Post
    doesn't seem to matter if it is number 1 or number 2 they both are bottoms.
    Brian, I suspect my sense humour may have caused confusion, I was trying to work out whether the tomato best portrays the upper or lower part of the female anatomy, but looking at the way I posted them perhaps it's me who's confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stagecoach View Post
    Brian, I suspect my sense humour may have caused confusion, I was trying to work out whether the tomato best portrays the upper or lower part of the female anatomy, but looking at the way I posted them perhaps it's me who's confused
    You just might need more human and less camera company?

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    I like the third one better now...the shadow at the bottom is just right and the window light is so much more smoother and not as staring back at me like the first two ones. And this comment is coming from someone who is still studying lighting from my studio and cannot achieve the same purpose hence did not touch my camera at the time, so ignore me, what do I know?

    Ooopppsss so sorry I forgot to think of bottom female anatomy.

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    Thanks for saying nothing Mark

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