Watson's Mill Revisited

[Round Tuit]

Sailorstu's beautiful photo inspired me to go back to the mill to try to capture it myself.
I find it fascinating how two photographs of the same scene can look so different. I took this photo a bit earlier in the day than Stu as evidenced by the shadow on the wall of the mill. When I left home the sky was clear but by the time I took the picture 20 minutes later high clouds had already moved in. This is a panorama of five vertical shots taken at fl 18mm which is as wide as my lens will go.



C & C always welcomed and appreciated.

Andre

P.S. I hope that it is not inappropriate on my part to duplicate someone else's photo. I will remove it if if offends.

[Shadowman]

Andre,

We all shoot similar subjects from time to time, think about the many images of Niagara Falls. As you've acknowledged the source for the material, I think you are clear of any wrongdoings.

Nicely captured.

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P.S. I hope that it is not inappropriate on my part to duplicate someone else's photo.

But you haven't. You've made your own image from the same location as someone else. That's all.

[Sailorstu]

Andre, I agree completely with Donald. What you have done is not at all inappropriate and I like your picture very much, as I do my own. The great thing about photography is getting the shot of whatever subject that we see and experience as individuals. I often research photo shoot subjects and locations on the internet by looking at images taken by others - but when I take my photo I am seeking to achieve a capture of what I see and experience, at the time that the photo is taken.

[Round Tuit]

Thank you John, Donald and particularly Stu for confirming what I suspected was right all along. I will sleep easy.
I sometimes struggles with the ethics of my actions. This is one of the reasons that I avoid "street photography". I can't bring myself to take a photo of a person without asking permission although I did it once when I took a picture of a young, make that very young, woman on a nature trail. I now have what is probably the best portrait that I have ever taken but can't share it because I don't know if she or her parents would approve.
Some people might consider that if someone is out in public then it is assumed that it is OK to take their picture. I just don't know.
Andre

[John 2]

That's a nice tranquil Image. Love the colour, it's well composed and I like the still water reflection.

[Round Tuit]

John

That's a nice tranquil Image. Love the colour, it's well composed and I like the still water reflection.

I'm glad that you like it. Thank you

[Shadowman]

Thank you John, Donald and particularly Stu for confirming what I suspected was right all along. I will sleep easy.
I sometimes struggles with the ethics of my actions. This is one of the reasons that I avoid "street photography". I can't bring myself to take a photo of a person without asking permission although I did it once when I took a picture of a young, make that very young, woman on a nature trail. I now have what is probably the best portrait that I have ever taken but can't share it because I don't know if she or her parents would approve.
Some people might consider that if someone is out in public then it is assumed that it is OK to take their picture. I just don't know.
Andre

Go with your feelings on whether or not it is appropriate, I can't see myself trying to convince you otherwise.

[ST1]

Andre you've captured a very nice scene, the reflection in the water add to the image. The little bit of blue in the sky has overcome what could have been a rather dreary sky. IMHO you have made a good image well done. I may have considered removing the power lines from the sky but the aren't too prominent should you decide to leave them in.

Don't beat yourself up about using the same locations as another photographer. I didn't see Sailorstu's image so I shall now hop over and have a look at that as well.

[Round Tuit]

John,

Go with your feelings on whether or not it is appropriate, I can't see myself trying to convince you otherwise.

That sounds like very good advice.
As for convincing me otherwise, the odds might be better that you think. Some fifty years ago, I knew right from wrong and the world was black and white. Since then I have worked and lived in four countries on two continents. I have met hundreds of people of different culture, religion, background, social status. Most of them did not see the world as I do. The one common denominator though was that most of them were decent people. I also have found that if one listens to different point of view, which is sometime hard to do, one can find new perspectives to enrich one's life.
Many photographers take photos without the express permission of the subject. These photographers cannot all be unethical or irresponsible. I am therefore opened to their views on the matter.

Sincere thanks for your comments,

Andre

[Round Tuit]

Peter,

Andre you've captured a very nice scene, the reflection in the water add to the image. The little bit of blue in the sky has overcome what could have been a rather dreary sky. IMHO you have made a good image well done. I may have considered removing the power lines from the sky but the aren't too prominent should you decide to leave them in.

Don't beat yourself up about using the same locations as another photographer. I didn't see Sailorstu's image so I shall now hop over and have a look at that as well.

Now that you mention the power lines I think that I will attempt to remove them. It should not be too difficult.

Thanks for your comments.

Andre

[IzzieK]

Peter beat me to the powerlines thingie. I guess early dog gets the bone first... Anyway, I like this shot, as well as Stu's and if you feel it is inappropriate to shoot at the same spot, then many photographers should feel guilty of the same...you get the drip???

[mugge]

I like the picture very much. Why not try it in black and white, first with quite subdued tones and then with very
strong contrast. I can see three pictures here, each having its own qualities. That is only my opinion.
Cheers Ole

[MrB]

Andre, this is a good viewpoint for capturing the pleasant scene, with the bridge leading to the mill and the still water giving wonderful reflections. A few points to consider. Firstly, the lamp is rather close to the edge of the frame - could you have included a bit more there, or would something awkward have intruded into the scene? Secondly and related to the first, although the main subject is presumably the mill, for me the tall trees and their reflections seem to dominate the left side, so that shifting the frame a bit to the right might give the image more balance. Thirdly, the mill is leaning left and the lamp is leaning right - for me it would be preferable to correct the slight but noticeable distortion of the image.

E.g. (For points 2 and 3):



Cheers.
Philip

[Kaye Leggett]

My view is that this forum has as one of its functions to inspire its participants. We are widely dispersed but occasionally have the opportunity to be inspired by a particular location which is local to us. So going out and shooting it is no different than seeing how someone lights a shot for example and giving it a go ourselves. Also if a location I have shot inspires someone to go there and take their own shot, then I am flattered. So Andre, have no feelings of angst, not on this forum anyway.

P.s it's a good image too

[Round Tuit]

Peter beat me to the powerlines thingie. I guess early dog gets the bone first... Anyway, I like this shot, as well as Stu's and if you feel it is inappropriate to shoot at the same spot, then many photographers should feel guilty of the same...you get the drip???

Izzie - I thought it was "the early bird gets the worm".

Thanks for your comments.

Andre

[Round Tuit]

I like the picture very much. Why not try it in black and white, first with quite subdued tones and then with very
strong contrast. I can see three pictures here, each having its own qualities. That is only my opinion.
Cheers Ole

Ole
I'm glad that you like my picture. I have never tried my hand at black and white because I generally prefer color. I would not know where to start to do a good conversion. If you feel up to it, I would love to see what your black and white vision of this image would be.

Thank for your interest.

Andre

[Round Tuit]

Andre, this is a good viewpoint for capturing the pleasant scene, with the bridge leading to the mill and the still water giving wonderful reflections. A few points to consider. Firstly, the lamp is rather close to the edge of the frame - could you have included a bit more there, or would something awkward have intruded into the scene? Secondly and related to the first, although the main subject is presumably the mill, for me the tall trees and their reflections seem to dominate the left side, so that shifting the frame a bit to the right might give the image more balance. Thirdly, the mill is leaning left and the lamp is leaning right - for me it would be preferable to correct the slight but noticeable distortion of the image.

E.g. (For points 2 and 3):



Cheers.
Philip

Philip,
Thank you for taking the time to evaluate my picture. I think that your crop of the left side is a positive improvement and so is the perspective correction. As to the lamp, I struggled with that too. I tried including more to the right of the lamp but that introduced too much concrete and stones which made the image very unbalanced. I also tried a tighter crop to remove it completely but that broke the connection between the shore and the bridge. So I settled with leaving it there.

Andre.

[Round Tuit]

My view is that this forum has as one of its functions to inspire its participants. We are widely dispersed but occasionally have the opportunity to be inspired by a particular location which is local to us. So going out and shooting it is no different than seeing how someone lights a shot for example and giving it a go ourselves. Also if a location I have shot inspires someone to go there and take their own shot, then I am flattered. So Andre, have no feelings of angst, not on this forum anyway.

P.s it's a good image too

Kaye

It seems safe to say that it is OK.

Thank you for your input.

andre