Inserting trees as the foreground

[Akhsan Aziz]

I tried to capture the beauty of Angkor in the other way, by inserting trees and some people as the foreground. There are two photos:

1. the original



2. The modification.



Thanks for viewing.
C&C are most welcome

[Dave Humphries]

Hi Akhsan,

You may find the first post in this thread useful:
How to Get Effective Feedback for your Posted Images

I say this because some 30 people have viewed your post, but none have felt able to comment - because we don't really understand what you were trying to achieve with that modification. It holds some interest initially, because we're not used to seeing a scene like that, but I found most of the interest is in the foreground tree and people, not Angkor, mainly because that isn't in focus and it's quite small and distant.


Taking the original; I'm afraid it doesn't work for me because you have the scene divided in two by the foreground tree which runs from top to bottom of the frame. I see no valid reason for this, given the rest of the scene behind.

There are three prominent trees in shot, two are similar, the other (on right is not).

If I were shooting this scene, I would try for an angle of Angkor that included only the two similar trees, perhaps using these to frame the buildings on left and right, excluding the other tree (on right) entirely.

I would also rotate the camera 90 degrees to a vertical orientation so that I did not clip the top off the nearer tree.

I would also try to photograph with better light on the buildings, if that were possible given any time and travel constraints you may have had.

The EXIF data shows: Canon 1200D, 18-55mm lens at 55mm, Auto exposure, Landscape (exposure mode), 1/99 sec, f/6.3, ISO 100.

I hope those thoughts help you take a better image initially next time, one that might not need modification.

However, if your aim was to explore post processing techniques, then it was a success.

[Manfred M]

Akhsan - just to echo what Dave has written, you might want to consider reading up on composition. There is lots of information on this subject (including this site) on the internet.

What most people would think when viewing this shot is that your subject is the tree, rather than the buildings of Ankgor Wat. I rather doubt that this is the case. There are many fine images all over the internet on this fine subject. Look at how others have photographed this site and compare your composition to theirs and think about what works and what does not work.

[Akhsan Aziz]

Hi Akhsan,

You may find the first post in this thread useful:
How to Get Effective Feedback for your Posted Images

I say this because some 30 people have viewed your post, but none have felt able to comment - because we don't really understand what you were trying to achieve with that modification. It holds some interest initially, because we're not used to seeing a scene like that, but I found most of the interest is in the foreground tree and people, not Angkor, mainly because that isn't in focus and it's quite small and distant.


Taking the original; I'm afraid it doesn't work for me because you have the scene divided in two by the foreground tree which runs from top to bottom of the frame. I see no valid reason for this, given the rest of the scene behind.

There are three prominent trees in shot, two are similar, the other (on right is not).

If I were shooting this scene, I would try for an angle of Angkor that included only the two similar trees, perhaps using these to frame the buildings on left and right, excluding the other tree (on right) entirely.

I would also rotate the camera 90 degrees to a vertical orientation so that I did not clip the top off the nearer tree.

I would also try to photograph with better light on the buildings, if that were possible given any time and travel constraints you may have had.

The EXIF data shows: Canon 1200D, 18-55mm lens at 55mm, Auto exposure, Landscape (exposure mode), 1/99 sec, f/6.3, ISO 100.

I hope those thoughts help you take a better image initially next time, one that might not need modification.

However, if your aim was to explore post processing techniques, then it was a success.

Dear Dave,

Thank you for your information about how to get feedback and your constructive input.

Regarding to my photo, my main aim is to get a picture of the temple with inserting other objects in the frame, such as people of vegetation or maybe other elements surrounding the temple. I saw many picture of Angkor Wat, they are beautiful, my from my point of view, they are almost the same. The photographer only focus on the building. I want to frame with a difference approach.

My photo (above), however, I agree that the other tree (on the right) is too dominant and take almost half of the frame and also make the Angkor Wat a bit hiden. So, I try to modify the photo with that technique in order to make it a bit better .

Please see my photo below. I include people as the foreground of the gate of the Angkor Wat. For me it is more interesting than just to framing the gate itself.

By the way, may I know how to get EXIF data info ?

Thanks and regards.

[Akhsan Aziz]

Akhsan - just to echo what Dave has written, you might want to consider reading up on composition. There is lots of information on this subject (including this site) on the internet.

What most people would think when viewing this shot is that your subject is the tree, rather than the buildings of Ankgor Wat. I rather doubt that this is the case. There are many fine images all over the internet on this fine subject. Look at how others have photographed this site and compare your composition to theirs and think about what works and what does not work.

Dear Manfred,

Thank you for your comments and input. Hmmm, ya it is true that the photo seems that the main object is the tree. it is cleared with the one on the right. it should be erased.

Relate to my statement above (my answer to Dave), that I think it is more interesting to insert people or other element surrounding the temple. Please see the third photo.

Regards.

[Dave Humphries]

By the way, may I know how to get EXIF data info ?

It will be available in most Image editing programmes, you can even read some of it with Windows File Properties (Advanced) if the file is on your computer.

By far the easiest way is to go to this web site and provide a url to a web host picture, or direct it (Browse) to a file on your computer. http://regex.info/exif.cgi

Here is your latest picture linked.

Some actions, in some editing programmes may strip the data, so it isn't always available.

Also, that site, as in your case, provides a lot of data, not all will make sense - please don't think you need to understand it all, that which is in the first box "Basic Image Information", tells you the most useful stuff. I'd only suggest you scroll down the page and try to figure some of the rest if you like 'detective' work

Cheers, Dave

[Akhsan Aziz]

It will be available in most Image editing programmes, you can even read some of it with Windows File Properties (Advanced) if the file is on your computer.

By far the easiest way is to go to this web site and provide a url to a web host picture, or direct it (Browse) to a file on your computer. http://regex.info/exif.cgi

Here is your latest picture linked.

Some actions, in some editing programmes may strip the data, so it isn't always available.

Also, that site, as in your case, provides a lot of data, not all will make sense - please don't think you need to understand it all, that which is in the first box "Basic Image Information", tells you the most useful stuff. I'd only suggest you scroll down the page and try to figure some of the rest if you like 'detective' work

Cheers, Dave

Dear Dave,

Thank you for your detail information.

Regards.