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    Re: Movieplus starter edition, is it good please?

    Richard, I've found Avidemux useful for this in the past.

    Great price

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    Re: Movieplus starter edition, is it good please?

    Quote Originally Posted by LouiseTopp View Post
    That's the problem I don't have a powerful computer yet.

    Whats the link to Premier Pro, and is there a trial version please?
    Yes, there's a 30 days trial version for Premier Pro CC. Just google it

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    Re: Movieplus starter edition, is it good please?

    Quote Originally Posted by proseak View Post
    Richard, I've found Avidemux useful for this in the past.

    Great price
    What's that please?

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    Re: Movieplus starter edition, is it good please?

    Quote Originally Posted by LouiseTopp View Post
    What's that please?
    http://avidemux.sourceforge.net/

    Google is a powerful way to answer you question....

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    Re: Movieplus starter edition, is it good please?

    Quote Originally Posted by LouiseTopp View Post
    What's that please?
    http://avidemux.sourceforge.net/

    Google is a powerful way to answer you question....

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    Re: Movieplus starter edition, is it good please?

    Just to say their PhotoPlus Starter Edition is very good for a basic photo editing software.

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    I'll try it this afternoon and let you know how i get on with it.

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    Re: Movieplus starter edition, is it good please?

    Right instead of starting a new thread, I have decided to post an update about another problem. I have downloaded the free version and have put some video files into the programme which are in Mpeg format, but now they are playing without any sound.

    Can someone explain how to fix this please?

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    I did have that problem. Somewhere in the settings there is an option for sound on or off; but offhand I can't remember exactly what I changed.

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    Re: Movieplus starter edition, is it good please?

    Louise - While I don't know the software you are using, all of the non-linear editors that I have used handle the video and sound parts as separate entities on the timeline.

    This may mean you have to import the sound separately (not likely, but a possibility) or it may mean that you have to adjust the sound volume in the audio part of the timeline. Being a free version, there is always the possibility that the sound editing functionality has been crippled.

    I've also had video editors do something strange with the audio driver on my computer because I lost completely lost the sound on my computer after editing a video file (note: this means all sound was lost, not just the audio track on the clip that I edited).

    This is the Premiere Pro CC 2015 timeline and I have marked where the video and audio tracks can be seen. Movieplus should have something similar.


    Movieplus starter edition, is it good please?


    Reading the user's manual would likely be the best place to start...
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    Re: Movieplus starter edition, is it good please?

    Reading the user's manual would likely be the best place to start...
    It doesn't come with one.

    Is there a codac I need? It's in MVP at the moment on Movie plus.It plays on the hard drive, just not in the programme and I would like to know why. The find codac magnyfying glass seems to be grayed out.

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    Re: Movieplus starter edition, is it good please?

    Hi Louise - the Codec (an abbreviation for coder-decoder) could be the issue. You need the appropriate Codec to read the video that your camera has recorded and a different one for playback. Both need to be installed on your computer for the edit to work.

    1. If you can open the files in the editor (i.e. see them to edit), it looks like the codec has been installed on your machine. It seems likely that this is the case. If your editor shows both video and sound tracks on its timeline (similar to what I showed on my previous posting), you can assume that this part of the process is working for you. If either the video or sound are not showing up there, then one has to figure out why. If you what camera you are shooting with, you could check with the editor manufacturer (on their website) to see if there are any issues with it.

    This is generally a more of an issue with newer cameras as the editing software might not have the updates required for it yet (especially for the free versions). You should be able to find something on the edit software website. For example, Apple did not support the popular Sony / Panasonic AVCHD codec for quite some time after it was released. In that case, however, you couldn't even open the files in the editor.

    2. The second part of the puzzle is your output. Most likely, if the output codec is in the list of choices on the editor, it is almost certainly installed on your machine. Which output codec are you using? The type of video will most certainly play a role here. If your camera shoots SD (standard definition), then the output codec must support SD play. If you are looking at an HD camera, then things get a bit trickier as image size and frame rate both come into play. If you get a mismatch here, the sound may not match the video and no sound is definitely a possibility.

    Unfortunately, in video, there are a lot more options that need to be set correctly than in still editing. Not knowing what your input is, what your editor can do and what output you are trying to create leads to a lot of vague answers and guesses. Some of the older Codecs were video only (no sound), so this could be an issue if you select an inappropriate output Codec.

    If your software supports the H.264 codec and you are working in HD, that is probably a very safe choice for output as it is very widely used..

    Another possibility is that your machine can't keep up. You've mentioned that you have an old and slow machine, so this could be the issue as well. All the resources could be going to render the video and the sound is not keeping up.

    Sorry that I can't be any more helpful, but you are really not giving me much to work with and this is a very complex topic.

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    Re: Movieplus starter edition, is it good please?

    It works OK on Windows Media Player, not not on the movie plus. I am using windows 7 with 32 bite.

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    Re: Movieplus starter edition, is it good please?

    Quote Originally Posted by LouiseTopp View Post
    It works OK on Windows Media Player, not not on the movie plus. I am using windows 7 with 32 bite.
    To me that suggests that Movie Plus is the issue. Your operating system is also quite limiting as 32-bit restricts you to just over 3 GB of RAM. Most modern software is 64-bit; for instance none of the major photo or video tools I use are available in 32-bit anymore and cannot be installed on a 32-bit system.

    You might want to try the VideoLan (VLC) player. It is probably the most "universal" video player available and it is free at:

    http://www.videolan.org/

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    Can you see the sound line under the image timeline?

    There is a muting option which was turned off by default in my software. I think it was somewhere in the Properties Pane where there should be a sound on/off symbol which looks like an audio speaker.

    Alternatively try right clicking on the audio/video time line and see if you can locate a Mute option.

    It took me some time to think out how to overcome this issue, and the book wasn't a lot of help. ''Muting is possible by switching on or off the Mute buttons on a video or audio track's header, respectively.''

    It is now some time since I last used the video editor so I can't remember exactly how I did it but it was a simple click on just one option. My software is an earlier version but it probably works in a similar manner.

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    Re: Movieplus starter edition, is it good please?

    To me that suggests that Movie Plus is the issue. Your operating system is also quite limiting as 32-bit restricts you to just over 3 GB of RAM. Most modern software is 64-bit; for instance none of the major photo or video tools I use are available in 32-bit anymore and cannot be installed on a 32-bit system.
    I know this, so I am going to have to upgrade in January if I can afford it

    Can you see the sound line under the image timeline?
    No, not yet

    How does videolan work after I have downloaded it please?

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    Re: Movieplus starter edition, is it good please?

    Firstly, Louise, the VLC Player works in a similar manner to Windows Media Player, and others.

    It is a good universal general purpose player which I do use.

    Regarding your video editing. I've gone back to have a closer look at my Serif editor, Movie Plus 5 which is an earlier version.

    With it I search for files using one of the available options and bring a file into the time line. The video should be on the top with the sound files underneath. To the left is a 'status pane' showing exactly what is happening with your video in the time line.

    Right clicking on the time time gives me several options in the drop down menu and Mute is one of those possible changes.

    There is also a sound symbol on the left hand status pane (although it doesn't really look like a sound symbol) more like a green eye in my software. The important point is that there is a red line across it when turned off. This also applies to other on/off options.

    This symbol is also visible in the bottom right corner Properties Pane and it has a similar red line when muted. Just click on it to change the sound on/off option.

    There should also be a play option in that general area which allows you to see and play your video plus any edits you have made.

    But besides having an earlier version, I haven't done any video editing for a while so I'm very 'rusty' on what I previous did with the software.

    However, I remember it did take me a while to work out where everything was but eventually I found it to be a decent piece of software.

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    Re: Movieplus starter edition, is it good please?

    So after I downloaded VLC, how do I add it to Movie pluse please?

    The video should be on the top with the sound files underneath.
    Cant see any sound file's.

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    Re: Movieplus starter edition, is it good please?

    Louise - VLC is a media player and nothing more. It is as close to a "universal" player (i.e. it plays most file formats) as I know.

    The main reason for installing and using it is to determine if the videos you have created with Movie Plus have sound when you use it to play them. You had mentioned that you got sound when you used Windows Media Player and no sound when playing the clip in Movie Plus. If you get sound in VLC too it would suggest to me that the problem is with Movie Plus.

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    Re: Movieplus starter edition, is it good please?

    If you play the clip using the software Preview Pane can you hear the sound?

    If yes, you must be looking for the sound files in the wrong place. If no, they must be muted somewhere; so you will have to locate the mute on/off switch.

    As I said previously, it originally took me quite a bit of searching and struggling before I was able to get started with sound.

    Do you have any Help advice located somewhere in the visible screen; such as on the top toolbar?

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