the challenge of white take 2. better bg, whiter whites, new glasses.

[JBW]

[DEAN01]

Brian, very well done.

[xpatUSA]

Well done, Brian.

[Manfred M]

Pay attention to your background and to the edges of your image. The flower is just one part of the overall composition and all the pieces need to come together.

Seems to me I might have said this before...

Again, the shot has the same basic issues as your last post. Your background should not detract from your subject (hint - there are too many things for our eyes to wander to). The boundary of the frame should keep our eyes on the subject, rather than directing the out of the frame.

[JBW]

Seems to me I might have said this before...

Again, the shot has the same basic issues as your last post. Your background should not detract from your subject (hint - there are too many things for our eyes to wander to). The boundary of the frame should keep our eyes on the subject, rather than directing the out of the frame.

Seems to me that now you are just being grumpy, Grumpy.
I did work on the background and while I agree it is still too busy i did work on it.
I brought the edges in to remove some of the distractions.
I even found a way to get rid of the green tint that any wedding photographer would be pleased to use.

You have also said and I took to heart that fixing everything all at once just doesn't work. I did a bit on the bg but concentrated on the flower.

[JBW]

Seems to me I might have said this before...

Again, the shot has the same basic issues as your last post. Your background should not detract from your subject (hint - there are too many things for our eyes to wander to). The boundary of the frame should keep our eyes on the subject, rather than directing the out of the frame.

Seems to me that now you are just being grumpy, Grumpy.
I did work on the background and while I agree it is still too busy i did work on it.
I brought the edges in to remove some of the distractions.
I even found a way to get rid of the green tint that any wedding photographer would be pleased to use.

You have also said and I took to heart that fixing everything all at once just doesn't work. I did a bit on the bg but concentrated on the flower.

[Manfred M]

Seems to me that now you are just being grumpy, Grumpy.

Actually no. What I am suggesting is that you look at the entire image, rather than just looking at the flower. I see some bright leaves at the top left, red flowers in the top centre and some sticks on the bottom left. They are competing for the viewer's attention and taking away from the flower you are working on.

I suspect that the two sticks could be physically removed, the bright leaves moved off to the left and out of the way and by shooting from lower down, the red flowers would be hidden by the white flower. Photographers rearrange the competing elements all the time. I'm just suggesting that you (a) notice these elements and (b) figure out how to ensure that they can be kept out of the image.

Then look at the leaf on the left; it seems to be pointing away from the flower and out of the frame, leaving a dark gap at the bottom left. Pulling the leaf down with a clip or weight will clean up that bottom left corner of the image. Bottom right, again busy and a bit distracting. I think Ted's edit is moving in the right direction and simplifies the bottom corner. A bit of a vignette might help blend the bottom too.

Look at some of the other members that shoot flowers and look at how they handle their backgrounds and edges and see if you can emulate things that work there.

[xpatUSA]

I think Ted's edit is moving in the right direction and simplifies the bottom corner.

Sorry, I deleted it. Here it is again, to avoid complication:


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