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    Beauty in the compost. Shot in JPEG and in-camera HDR.

    Beauty in the compost. Shot in JPEG and in-camera HDR.

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    Re: Beauty in the compost. Shot in JPEG and in-camera HDR.

    I'd wonder about cropping in more tightly on the flowers. The debris in the background is beautiful in its own right and the fact that it is so is, I think, competing with the flowers.

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    Re: Beauty in the compost. Shot in JPEG and in-camera HDR.

    I've yet to see a jpeg image that had better PP that what we could cough out,
    looks underexposed.

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    Re: Beauty in the compost. Shot in JPEG and in-camera HDR.

    Quote Originally Posted by chauncey View Post
    I've yet to see a jpeg image that had better PP that what we could cough out,
    looks underexposed.
    99% of my shots look underexposed

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    Re: Beauty in the compost. Shot in JPEG and in-camera HDR.

    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    I'd wonder about cropping in more tightly on the flowers. The debris in the background is beautiful in its own right and the fact that it is so is, I think, competing with the flowers.
    perhaps something like this?
    Beauty in the compost. Shot in JPEG and in-camera HDR.

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    Re: Beauty in the compost. Shot in JPEG and in-camera HDR.

    I like the background, I prefer the first one to the crop.

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    Re: Beauty in the compost. Shot in JPEG and in-camera HDR.

    Quote Originally Posted by rachel View Post
    I like the background, I prefer the first one to the crop.
    Are your skies still clear?

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    Re: Beauty in the compost. Shot in JPEG and in-camera HDR.

    Quote Originally Posted by JBW View Post
    perhaps something like this?
    Yes, I think so. But I see Rachel prefers the original, which just proves that if you put two photographers in a room, you'll get three ideas about what makes a good pic!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBW View Post
    Are your skies still clear?
    We've had a bit of rain this week, so there's been more cloud, but the fuel blockade is still holding and the stars are out tonight.

    We just finished school for a 2 week holiday (hooray!) and I'm hoping to get out and see some pretty scenery. Trying to decide which camera/s to take.

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    Re: Beauty in the compost. Shot in JPEG and in-camera HDR.

    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Yes, I think so. But I see Rachel prefers the original, which just proves that if you put two photographers in a room, you'll get three ideas about what makes a good pic!!
    yes indeed, the more I look at this forum the more I realise just how personal taste is.

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    Re: Beauty in the compost. Shot in JPEG and in-camera HDR.

    Quote Originally Posted by rachel View Post
    We've had a bit of rain this week, so there's been more cloud, but the fuel blockade is still holding and the stars are out tonight.

    We just finished school for a 2 week holiday (hooray!) and I'm hoping to get out and see some pretty scenery. Trying to decide which camera/s to take.
    All of them?

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    Re: Beauty in the compost. Shot in JPEG and in-camera HDR.

    I wish, butt will be flying so only what fits in hand baggage. Bridge camera because it's what I get best photos with. Compact for being out trekking. DLSR is temtping in case I get some nice dark skies but I think I might have to give it a miss this time.

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    Re: Beauty in the compost. Shot in JPEG and in-camera HDR.

    Brian, I see nothing wrong with shooting a JPEG - most of my images are camera JPEGs, just tweaked to my taste using PC software. I've also made use of in-camera HDR when necessary, and found it to be quite effective.

    I'm wondering, however, why in-camera HDR was used for this shot. Unless I'm misunderstanding something, I thought HDR techniques are for scenes with a dynamic range that falls beyond the capabilities of the camera:-
    So that if we expose the scene to see highlight details in the image, then the shadow areas become featureless black; but if instead we expose to reveal shadow detail, the highlights become blown out to pure white.
    HDR should bring both ends back into view, either on-screen or in a print, and one might then expect the resulting image to have a histogram spread over the range from minimum to maximum.

    However, the histogram of this image is pushing against the bottom of the range, and there is not much above 60% (hence black areas and dark overall). So it would seem to me that HDR wasn't needed for this scene.

    A normal single shot, exposed to reveal the shadow details, would probably have worked. If that made the JPEG from the camera brighter overall than the real scene appeared to be, you could have reduced the mid-tones and/or highlights, with a bit of simple PP on the computer.

    I apologise if the above is incorrect, and I expect that the boffins here will help us by putting it right!

    Cheers.
    Philip

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    Re: Beauty in the compost. Shot in JPEG and in-camera HDR.

    Quote Originally Posted by rachel View Post
    I wish, butt will be flying so only what fits in hand baggage. Bridge camera because it's what I get best photos with. Compact for being out trekking. DLSR is temtping in case I get some nice dark skies but I think I might have to give it a miss this time.
    A bridge can certainly allow for creativity.

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    Re: Beauty in the compost. Shot in JPEG and in-camera HDR.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrB View Post
    Brian, I see nothing wrong with shooting a JPEG - most of my images are camera JPEGs, just tweaked to my taste using PC software. I've also made use of in-camera HDR when necessary, and found it to be quite effective.

    I'm wondering, however, why in-camera HDR was used for this shot. Unless I'm misunderstanding something, I thought HDR techniques are for scenes with a dynamic range that falls beyond the capabilities of the camera:-
    So that if we expose the scene to see highlight details in the image, then the shadow areas become featureless black; but if instead we expose to reveal shadow detail, the highlights become blown out to pure white.
    HDR should bring both ends back into view, either on-screen or in a print, and one might then expect the resulting image to have a histogram spread over the range from minimum to maximum.

    However, the histogram of this image is pushing against the bottom of the range, and there is not much above 60% (hence black areas and dark overall). So it would seem to me that HDR wasn't needed for this scene.

    A normal single shot, exposed to reveal the shadow details, would probably have worked. If that made the JPEG from the camera brighter overall than the real scene appeared to be, you could have reduced the mid-tones and/or highlights, with a bit of simple PP on the computer.

    I apologise if the above is incorrect, and I expect that the boffins here will help us by putting it right!

    Cheers.
    Philip
    I was using it in an attempt to bring out more detail. looking forward to the Boffins input.

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