I upped in-camera sharpness by 30% and backed up a bit ~ Windfall young coconut

[JBW]

[Shadowman]

Were you shooting in jpeg mode?

[JBW]

Were you shooting in jpeg mode?

RAW Aperture priority

[Wavelength]

Very nice

[Shadowman]

RAW Aperture priority

The in-camera sharpness setting won't affect the RAW capture but perhaps your RAW converter applies sharpness; it may or may not apply 30% sharpness to the final output. It's interesting that you are capturing well exposed images, however the coconut looks a bit flat without any shadow detail. Then again, I've never seen a coconut that looks like this.

[xpatUSA]

Nice DOF, how big was the nut?

So, is that 30% more sharpness setting applied to the A58's RAW data or is it passed to the Sony converter and applied there, do you think?

[edit] looks like John and I were typing at the same time with similar thoughts . . [/edit]

Probably like my Sigma SD1; when the raw file is loaded into the Sigma converter you can see the relevant sliders jump to the in-camera JPEG settings, ka-plink! Can't say I'm thrilled with that, which is why all my in-camera settings are zero

[JBW]

The in-camera sharpness setting won't affect the RAW capture but perhaps your RAW converter applies sharpness; it may or may not apply 30% sharpness to the final output. It's interesting that you are capturing well exposed images, however the coconut looks a bit flat without any shadow detail. Then again, I've never seen a coconut that looks like this.

Took another look and agreed. How about this rendering?

[JBW]

Nice DOF, how big was the nut?

So, is that 30% more sharpness setting applied to the A58's RAW data or is it passed to the Sony converter and applied there, do you think?

[edit] looks like John and I were typing at the same time with similar thoughts . . [/edit]

Probably like my Sigma SD1; when the raw file is loaded into the Sigma converter you can see the relevant sliders jump to the in-camera JPEG settings, ka-plink! Can't say I'm thrilled with that, which is why all my in-camera settings are zero

Not as big as the one who took the shot. Stem to stern 7 cm. I did look up how it works but found no explanation. It didn't make a major difference so back to 0 it goes.

[Shadowman]

Side by side the coconut looks the same, however the background appears to have less contrast and perhaps that's enough to change the appearance.

[JBW]

Side by side the coconut looks the same, however the background appears to have less contrast and perhaps that's enough to change the appearance.

I lessened, actually eliminated the shadow reduction, put a Gaussian blur in the bg and and put it 3 separate nl filter adjustments on the nut.

[Shadowman]

I lessened, actually eliminated the shadow reduction, put a Gaussian blur in the bg and and put it 3 separate nl filter adjustments on the nut.

I know in paintings green is used to help model shape on a 2 dimensional surface, I wonder if it's the green which extends across the body of the coconut that is not allowing my eyes to see the contours of the coconut.

[JBW]

I know in paintings green is used to help model shape on a 2 dimensional surface, I wonder if it's the green which extends across the body of the coconut that is not allowing my eyes to see the contours of the coconut.

There's an easy way to find out.

[Urbanflyer]

The in-camera sharpness setting won't affect the RAW capture but perhaps your RAW converter applies sharpness; it may or may not apply 30% sharpness to the final output. It's interesting that you are capturing well exposed images, however the coconut looks a bit flat without any shadow detail. Then again, I've never seen a coconut that looks like this.

agree with the comment here on flatness. Sometimes, like a painter, it is necessary to burn in contours to create an image that matches what our eyes beheld.

[JBW]

agree with the comment here on flatness. Sometimes, like a painter, it is necessary to burn in contours to create an image that matches what our eyes beheld.

I will file this under 'pending'. For now i am trying to get as much done in-camera as I can.But when i move back into pp work i shall try to develop the skill.

[Mike Buckley]

For now i am trying to get as much done in-camera as I can.

If you capture this scene when the light is casting a shadow on part of the coconut, that shadow will convey the shape to the viewer. Alternatively, you could create a shadow by placing anything between the sun and the coconut. Or as Judith mentioned, your final opportunity is to create that effect during post-processing.