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    Shooting thru Plexiglas

    When shooting through Plexiglas of a subject with no discernible neutral color or whites and in mixed lighting, how do you adjust the color balance. Especially if you do not vividly remember the colors of the subject - as with this male orangutan..

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    I used the reddish coat as a reference...

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    Re: Shooting thru Plexiglas

    Very nice detail, Richard.

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    Re: Shooting thru Plexiglas

    If this was shot through plexiglass I'd say you did quite well.

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    Re: Shooting thru Plexiglas

    Richard,
    I used the Colour balance eyedropper tool in ACR on the piece of white(ish) material lower camera right, the result is a little less muddy in the greens and blues I think.

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    Click through the images in Lytebox to see the difference.

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    Re: Shooting thru Plexiglas

    I think I prefer Rob's WB Richard,

    One other option is to set one of the ACR/LR presets dependent upon the lighting; e.g. Daylight, Shade, Cloudy, etc.

    Although they are quite far apart, they may help you decide what looks wrong and go from there with Temperature and/or Tint as seems wise. Also, try the ACR/LR "Automatic" to see what that makes of it compared to your camera's Auto-WB, visible in drop list; "As Shot".

    Finding something in the scene which is white (or grey) is another option and using eye dropper, but tricky with this shot, I agree - but as we can see, it can help.

    Also, bear in mind that you may be able to do that on another shot (different angle, but same lighting), then transfer the numeric values to the shot you're actually trying to process.

    Cheers, Dave

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    Re: Shooting thru Plexiglas

    Is the orangutan in a simulated open air enclosure or in natural light? Nice capture.

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    Re: Shooting thru Plexiglas

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Humphries View Post
    Also, bear in mind that you may be able to do that on another shot (different angle, but same lighting), then transfer the numeric values to the shot you're actually trying to process.

    Cheers, Dave
    Good point Dave.

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    Re: Shooting thru Plexiglas

    Thanks gentlemen, you have helped me a lot as my CiC friends always do...

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    Re: Shooting thru Plexiglas

    Richard - Plexiglas (Rohm & Haas), Perspex (Imperial Chemicals) and Lucite (Dupont) are trade names of acrylic plastic or more properly known as methyl methacrylate. This material (as do many plastics) tends to yellow when exposed to sunlight, so you might look at adding a bit of blue in post to counter the effect of the yellowing.

    I suspect that you are actually shooting through polycarbonate (Lexan is the GE trademark) as it is a more suitable material for this type of enclosure (much harder to break). This material yellows and clouds a bit under UV, so adding a bit of blue and additional sharpening might be required.

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    Re: Shooting thru Plexiglas

    I would have used Threshold and Curves and aim for the white part of the beard for the white point.

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    Re: Shooting thru Plexiglas

    Better than me! I usually just give up. I love shooting Clyde through the glass, but it's a white-balancing / focusing PITA. I'm pretty sure the glass the SD zoo uses adds a green tint.

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    Re: Shooting thru Plexiglas

    Quote Originally Posted by inkista View Post
    I'm pretty sure the glass the SD zoo uses adds a green tint.
    I wonder; could his face be being lit by reflected green grass/trees from behind him?
    Looking at these two shots, this may also be a part of the problem.

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    Re: Shooting thru Plexiglas

    I did a levels adjustment using the neutral midtones shown and like Izzie used the whites flecks on the chin and the blacks near the face; unfortunately the outcome became electric and would definitely not look like Richard's view. Attachment added to show location of neutral tones. Interestingly enough, I would have thought the neutral areas could be easily chosen by using the grass, surprised that such a small area was included in the search. I used a technique found in Elements tutorial called "Dave's (Cross) Amazing Trick for Finding a Neutra Gray".

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