Old & New

[Rebel]

Old & New by Matthew Roberts, on Flickr

[Shadowman]

Very nice.

[Rob Ekins]

Awesome!
If I may suggest a crop...OK I am going to anyway

I would crop the counter on the left, the triangle it creates points directly at the person in the CL BG, remove that pointer and focus is brought back to the lady CR and the the older folks in the middle ground.

Clever move having the gent in the foreground not as bright as the middle.

[Rebel]

Thanks both.

Awesome!
If I may suggest a crop...OK I am going to anyway

I would crop the counter on the left, the triangle it creates points directly at the person in the CL BG, remove that pointer and focus is brought back to the lady CR and the the older folks in the middle ground.

Clever move having the gent in the foreground not as bright as the middle.

Thanks Rob, I agree with your crop suggestion but I am trying to keep all my images in 3x2 ratio format and that would mean chopping the top of the guys head off or his feet?

[Dave Humphries]

For me Matt, the 'old and new' is the gent in the foreground being observed by one of the new in the double buggy.

That arguably renders most of the left hand side as immaterial, although I accept there is another generation thing going on there, but these could, under different circumstance, have been two separate shots.

HTH, Dave

[Rebel]

For me Matt, the 'old and new' is the gent in the foreground being observed by one of the new in the double buggy.

That arguably renders most of the left hand side as immaterial, although I accept there is another generation thing going on there, but these could, under different circumstance, have been two separate shots.

HTH, Dave

That.s another way of looking at it Dave and with merit.

What struck me, and why I decided to take the image is the journey from the pushchair to the mobility scooter.

[Dave Humphries]

What struck me, and why I decided to take the image is the journey from the pushchair to the mobility scooter.

More like; pushchair to wheelchair, via the mobility scooter

Yes, while I registered there were 3 different types of wheeled transport, I didn't make that connection with the title.

[IzzieK]

Push chair meaning the pram? I do not know what the US call it here as when we were in Oz, I knew the baby carriage as a pram and Bill asked what a pram is. Anyway, Matt. I saw this shot as a journey from the pram to the wheelchair, same analogy, old and new. If that is what you mean, then I am not saying anything new.

[Rebel]

Push chair meaning the pram? I do not know what the US call it here as when we were in Oz, I knew the baby carriage as a pram and Bill asked what a pram is. Anyway, Matt. I saw this shot as a journey from the pram to the wheelchair, same analogy, old and new. If that is what you mean, then I am not saying anything new.

Pushchair as in Pram

I was going to use the word 'pram' but I wasn't sure would is the internationally recognized word? I obviously got it wrong

[george013]

That.s another way of looking at it Dave and with merit.

What struck me, and why I decided to take the image is the journey from the pushchair to the mobility scooter.

The difference between that pushchair and the mobility scooter is a difference of ownership. A mobility scooter is mostly privat. That pushchair is owned by a hospital or something like that. The small back wheels are not meant to move the chair by yourself.

I thought the goal of the picture was the difference between the, new, kids on the right and the elder ladies on the left. Making the walking person in the middle not relevant.

George

[Rebel]

The difference between that pushchair and the mobility scooter is a difference of ownership. A mobility scooter is mostly privat. That pushchair is owned by a hospital or something like that. The small back wheels are not meant to move the chair by yourself.

I thought the goal of the picture was the difference between the, new, kids on the right and the elder ladies on the left. Making the walking person in the middle not relevant.

George

That is the main difference George, and why I took the picture. The vehicles they are in are in are relevant to their age as well.

[Ken MT]

Pushchair as in Pram

I was going to use the word 'pram' but I wasn't sure would is the internationally recognized word? I obviously got it wrong

Alternatives meaning of Pram
Pram or PRAM may refer to:
Pram, Austria
Pram (band), a musical group
Pram (ship), a type of shallow-draught, flat-bottomed ship (large watercraft)
Pram, a type of dinghy (small watercraft) with a flat bow
Pram, a type of wheeled baby transport
Pram, a character in the video game Makai Kingdom: Chronicles of the Sacred Tome
Parallel random access machine, an abstract computer for designing parallel algorithms
Phase-change RAM, a chalcogenide glass type of non-volatile random access memory
Parameter RAM, an area of non-volatile random access memory used to store system settings on Apple Macintosh Computers

[davidedric]

And Pram the baby carriage is, of course, a contraction of Perambulator

Dave

[Dave Humphries]

Ahhh - the vagaries of 'international' language

Hi George,

In the UK; 'pushchair' refers to what might well be called a 'buggy' or 'stroller' in other lands - e.g. the one on our right above. In these, the child basically sits in a chair, which may be reclinable for sleep. This is distinct, in my mind at least, from 'pram', which I would say is more of a 'baby cot' on wheels - the baby (0 - 9 months?) lies flat in the pram. Unfortunately, I gather that 'cot' means something else to US citizens (e.g. bed).

Whereas, in the UK; 'Wheelchair' is the term applied to those contraptions that are sometimes owned by hospitals that are used by others to push infirm or injured people about - the one on our left above. Sometimes wheelchairs are electrically propelled and able to be driven by the person sitting in them, via a joystick.

The 'mobility scooter' usually (always?) has 'handlebar' steering, like a bicycle or motorbike, as seen in the centre above - and is used by people that can walk, but not for any distance.

FWIW, that's my take on the terminology of personal transportation devices for the different ages

In UK, it is not uncommon to see communal use wheelchairs and/or mobility scooters available for use by the infirm at shopping malls, large individual stores and garden centres. I think the idea is that people will stay longer and spend more if they are not having to walk

Cheers, Dave

[Rebel]

Wow, this thread has taken a bit of a diversion.


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[mugge]

Alternatives meaning of Pram
Pram or PRAM may refer to:
Pram, Austria
Pram (band), a musical group
Pram (ship), a type of shallow-draught, flat-bottomed ship (large watercraft)
Pram, a type of dinghy (small watercraft) with a flat bow
Pram, a type of wheeled baby transport
Pram, a character in the video game Makai Kingdom: Chronicles of the Sacred Tome
Parallel random access machine, an abstract computer for designing parallel algorithms
Phase-change RAM, a chalcogenide glass type of non-volatile random access memory
Parameter RAM, an area of non-volatile random access memory used to store system settings on Apple Macintosh Computers

Whattt!!!!

[george013]

That is the main difference George, and why I took the picture. The vehicles they are in are in are relevant to their age as well.

That's what I thought. I got a bit confused with those chairs. If you had waited some time for that man getting out of the frame, it would be stronger I think.

Dave,
To me a scooter has always an engine. That's what it makes expensive, you must know how to use it, you've to maintain it, etc. That's why it is not meant for general use. It's private.
The other is a pushchair, the person in it doesn't have the possibility to move it himself. If it was meant like that, than the back wheel would be big, so he could use that, or he should have a possibility to move it with his hands something like a bike.

George

[John 2]

Hi Matt. Nicely captured and I have to concede George's point that the man dominates as does the bright stall on the RHS. But that's street photography for you. Had you waited for the man to move out of shot, everything else would have moved on also and the shot would probably have been lost. Keep them coming. I'm enjoying your fore into street images.

[Rebel]

Hi Matt. Nicely captured and I have to concede George's point that the man dominates as does the bright stall on the RHS. But that's street photography for you. Had you waited for the man to move out of shot, everything else would have moved on also and the shot would probably have been lost. Keep them coming. I'm enjoying your fore into street images.

Thanks John, can't argue with much of that

[Sergio M.]

The problem seems to be with the title, Matt (I have that problem). It's a good photo in it's own right. Plenty there to be seen and observed. It holds my interest to see what's going on with the various people. Good catch.

Sergio