Dan, all of the shots I've gotten from the feed have been through double pane windows that are only about 6-8ft away. These were a little skiddish at first, but, with the abundant food, they seem to be OK with me right at the window. I would be shooting almost directly into the sun if I were to go out and sit on the patio, so, I've just decided to sit on the edge of the couch and keep my camera handy. Having feeders is almost like having your own little miniature zoo. We have birds and squirrels during the day and who know what comes by at night. Makes me a lazy bird photographer for sure.