Susan Heyward's Grave

[Digital]

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On the road to Temple, Ga., there is a side road (a few miles north of the old country store) that leads to the only Roman Catholic Church in the Carrollton area.
It is at this Catholic church that Susan Hayward, and her husband are buried. Her married name was Chalkley, and on the left side in front of the flowers is a marker with the name "Susan Hayward Chalkley". It is the only reference to her stage name on the entire gravesite.
If memory serves me correctly, the Chalkleys' donated the land that the church (Our Lady of Perpetual Help) now sits on. The church itself was to my right where these pics were made.
Back in 2000, when I first moved to Carrollton, I learned that Susan Hayward (Hollywood actress) was buried at the Catholic Church. So off I went to the church to visit her grave. I did not find it. Later, I attended mass at the church, and after mass some nice gentlemen pointed her gravesite out to me. On my initial search I was looking for a Hayward, not a Chalkley.

Bruce

[IzzieK]

She is a pretty lady, Bruce. Seems like you have quite a bit of photo ops in that area...

[Digital]

Thank you Izzie for commenting. This weekend I have done some scouting on possible locations for another story when I complete the thread on the old country store.
As for as Susan Hayward, apparently she was well known by the locals in this area. I met a retired Georgia State Trooper who, if memory serves me correctly, worked her funeral.
The sad part of her life was that she was around 58 years old when she died. I believe it was some type of neurological problem involving her brain.

Bruce

[Mike Buckley]

I don't remember ever seeing a chair at a grave site. This one is outdoors and is also so clean. What is its purpose? Perhaps another topic worth pursuing by Super Sleuth?

[Digital]

I don't remember ever seeing a chair at a grave site. This one is outdoors and is also so clean. What is its purpose? Perhaps another topic worth pursuing by Super Sleuth?

Mike, I am on it. Since I am in a hiatus with the old country store, I will contact the Catholic church tomorrow, and pose your question to them.
I did notice the chair; however my brain did not delve deeper of why the chair was there in the first place.
As soon as I learn something, I will let you all know.

Bruce

[Digital]

I contacted the Catholic church today via phone. The phone was answered by an answering service. I identified myself, and told the person the purpose of my call. Was told someone would get back in touch with me. My guess is that the church had more spiritual concerns to deal with than why a chair is situated at a grave site since no one returned my call. Later this afternoon, I was in the pool room watching some games of pool when a fellow I know from our local chapter of the American Association of Retired Persons (AARP) came in to the pool room, and sat down beside me. After a brief conversation, I told him that I had posted a pic of Susan Hayward's gravesite on a web page for photographers, and I was wondering why a chair was located at her gravesite. He told me the chair was placed there for anyone who wants to sit, and meditate. Turns out he is an active member of the Catholic church in Carrollton.
Mike, I hope this answers your question.
This afternoon I Googled Susan Hayward. As I result I am not going to delve into her personal history; however I am going to tell you what some of the Carrollton residents said about her when she was residing in Carrollton. It was said that people would run into her at grocery stores, and other such places. Most of the persons who told me this all related that she did not look like a movie star when they ran into her-she looked quite different without makeup. Another person told me that his father had taken him to her house to do some repairs, and while at the house (the son) played with her Oscar. As a side note, although nominated for several Oscars, Susan Hayward only won one Oscar. As I hear more stories about Ms. Hayward (Chalkley), I will share them on this thread.
Finally, while seeking information that has been presented on this post, I also learned something about the history of Our Lady of Perpetual Help. I "may" share this on a different thread.

Bruce

[Mike Buckley]

Super Sleuth comes through again!

[Digital]

Super Sleuth comes through again!

[IzzieK]

Your reputation as a sleuth must be getting around town, so people who actually knows something about what you are sleuthing about decided to keep quiet and let you do the work yourself...hmmm..that is hard...

[Donald]

Good on you, Bruce. Like I said before, it's this local capturing of history that is so important. Generations in the future will be grateful.

[Digital]

Thank you Izzie, and Donald for your kind comments, and encouragement. Today I received a phone call from the priest at Our Lady of Perpetual Help. He confirmed that the chair is present at the gravesite for anyone to sit, and meditate.
I believe after I conclude the "Old Country Store (then & now)", I am going to do a brief history on the Catholic Church in Carrollton. This of course will include photos taken by yours truly (i.e.me).

Bruce

[thetraveler]

This picture has some possibilities but, imo, it is too ambiguously edited right now.
Relatively flat, some perspective distortion and no clear idea of what is really important, except intellectually.
The two wings seem to be of different heights - and that seems wrong.

Since the color is so bland, this seems like a good candidate for conversion to BW, darkening the unimportant things and perhaps adding a bit of sepia tone to soften the impact.

[William W]

I think, from memory, as one looks front on to the monument (i.e. the aspect the image is made), there is a ground slope from right to left. The curb at the road is quite high by comparison to a point at sixty feet to the left. So I think it is actuality and not odd that the left hand end of stone work appears taller than the right hand end.

There’s some minor keystone distortion in the image (and maybe a little bit of barrel distortion), but not very much and the Keystone Distortion can be easily corrected: probably that was caused by the camera being slightly inclined downward.

Don’t know what is meant by the phrase “perspective distortion” - that phrase is often used to describe either Foreshortening or Elongation: but I can see no evidence of either existing in this image. Again, from memory, to attain that Horizontal Field of View, using an 18mm lens on a Nikon APS-C Format Camera, I think that Bruce would have been standing about 30 feet from the front edges of the stonework - and that’s not going to provide any perceivable Foreshortening or Elongation, if that's what is meant by "perspective distortion".

In any case: apropos comments pertaining to the vibrance; colours; and other 'artistic' interpretive post production qualities etc., I thought that the image’s main purpose was that it be an image of historical record, but maybe I misunderstood the Photographer’s purpose?

WW

[thetraveler]

There seems to be no statement of purpose in this thread by the OP and historicity, considering this is only one focal length, one POV and time of day/year, does not seem incompatible with an image that is not straight out of camera.

[Digital]

I think, from memory, as one looks front on to the monument (i.e. the aspect the image is made), there is a ground slope from right to left. The curb at the road is quite high by comparison to a point at sixty feet to the left. So I think it is actuality and not odd that the left hand end of stone work appears taller than the right hand end.

There’s some minor keystone distortion in the image (and maybe a little bit of barrel distortion), but not very much and the Keystone Distortion can be easily corrected: probably that was caused by the camera being slightly inclined downward.

Don’t know what is meant by the phrase “perspective distortion” - that phrase is often used to describe either Foreshortening or Elongation: but I can see no evidence of either existing in this image. Again, from memory, to attain that Horizontal Field of View, using an 18mm lens on a Nikon APS-C Format Camera, I think that Bruce would have been standing about 30 feet from the front edges of the stonework - and that’s not going to provide any perceivable Foreshortening or Elongation, if that's what is meant by "perspective distortion".

In any case: apropos comments pertaining to the vibrance; colours; and other 'artistic' interpretive post production qualities etc., I thought that the image’s main purpose was that it be an image of historical record, but maybe I misunderstood the Photographer’s purpose?

WW

Bill, you are right on.

Bruce

[William W]

If you want to correct the Keystone Distortion, then here’s what I found – (note there's 0.50 degree rotation also)



WW

[Digital]

Bill, thanks for your comments. The main purpose of the two pics I displayed was to set the stage for the historical narrative.


Bruce

[thetraveler]

Bill, thanks for your comments. The main purpose of the two pics I displayed was to set the stage for the historical narrative.

Bruce

Perhaps, in the future, you should say at the beginning that you don't want your pictures edited by someone who isn't in whatever club you seem to have.

This kind of rudeness is fairly remarkable.

[Mike Buckley]

Bruce,

My thinking is that you wouldn't know how to be rude even if you tried.

[Digital]

Bruce,

My thinking is that you wouldn't know how to be rude even if you tried.

Mike, thank you for that very kind comment. I am no means perfect; however I try to be kind to everyone I meet.


Bruce