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    Re: Photographs under canopy during a cloudy day - how to fix colors

    Quote Originally Posted by DanK View Post
    using the standard profile should make all colors, including blues, MORE intense, not less.
    Using Camera Landscape, but not Camera Standard. Here is an example:
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Warszawa_2.jpg
    (Adobe Standard)
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Warszawa_2.jpg
    (Camera Standard + some other minor changes, but both images 5100K, Tint +5)
    The original page with description e.t.c.:
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...Warszawa_2.jpg
    (this is an image I took this spring and uploaded to Wikimedia)
    Adobe Standard makes light reflected from grass like strongly reflected from anti-transpiration layers, like cutin.

    Edited later:
    The same partially fixed setting Temp 5300K, Tint +7 (and Adobe Standard):
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Warszawa_2.jpg
    Maybe 5500K and +10 would be better.

    Edited even later:
    These images are only documentary, not artistic ones, but show differences. Next two ones:
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...arszawa_10.jpg
    (Adobe Standard, not natural blue color)
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...arszawa_10.jpg
    (Camera Standard, this is how the water approx. looked like, but still not too good)
    The original page with description e.t.c.:
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...arszawa_10.jpg
    (I photographed and uploaded to Wikimedia this image this summer)
    Both images Temp 5500, Tint +10, Camera Calibration and some minor settings different.
    This is such peatbog lake with very deep blue strange color of water. Probably because of brown/reddish humic acids absorbing strongly the blue color of the sky.
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    Re: Photographs under canopy during a cloudy day - how to fix colors

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Buckley View Post
    Manfred,

    I'm reasonably confident that my information that most grey cards designed to achieve the ideal exposure are not spectrally neutral came from Colin's posts. Unfortunately, I find no way to conduct a search of any posts he wrote.
    If he said that, he was being overly general.

    Here is the reflectance chart for the Kodak R-27:

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    Re: Photographs under canopy during a cloudy day - how to fix colors

    Quote Originally Posted by darekk View Post
    Oh my, such a selective color editing ! The 'Auto' image option in the RawTherapee software? I found it in Wikipedia.
    No, the function is called the 'HSV Equalizer'.

    What do you mean "color-pick that trunk", because it means nothing to me.
    I meant the common function in many editors where you click in a presumed neutral area of the scene and the editor sets that area to gray and adjusts all the other colors accordingly.

    Which options did you use exactly ?
    Just the 'White Balance' on the trunk and the 'HSV Equalizer' on the greens.

    Telling the truth I would like to do everything in Lightroom. Using several programs in not very handly. It can be done with Lightroom, it has such drop tool setting color temperature and tint. But you manually try to restore natural colors besides that trunk. This is not good too. And these colors are not natural.
    No, I did not "try to restore natural colors" - I showed two exaggerated examples so of course the colors were not natural.

    I did something similar, maybe not the same thing some time ago. Colors changed selectively but they were not natural. But this is because that colors were set to neutral or that is the feature of that software ?
    I don't understand that question.

    If you prefer to "do everything in Lightroom", I can offer nothing further, sorry.

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    Re: Photographs under canopy during a cloudy day - how to fix colors

    Quote Originally Posted by xpatUSA View Post
    Just the 'White Balance' on the trunk and the 'HSV Equalizer' on the greens.
    Thank you for all your answers. The trunk is not neutral but maybe making it neutral makes it unchanged during use of HSV equalizer.
    I installed RawTherapee. The options are (in the right panel):
    Color - White Balance - Spot WB (and clicking on the trunk)
    Color - HSV Equalizer (and increasing back lost colors) ??
    The same can be done in Lightroom:
    Basic - Treatment - White Balance Selector
    HSL - Color - B&W (one of first two options)
    I used it few weeks ago, but such manually restored colors are not natural.

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