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    Woops !

    Just for fun

    Woops !

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    Re: Woops !

    how strange

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    Re: Woops !

    A lovely sky and certainly different.

    A lot of dust on the sensor? It is a problem I usually only have at night.

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    Lovely blue....But how this connects with the fun element?

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    Re: Woops !

    A pedantic purist might say it should be on the left post, so that it is closer to one of the thirds.


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    Re: Woops !

    Quote Originally Posted by Wavelength View Post
    ....But how this connects with the fun element?
    It took me a while to spot the relevance of the title - until I saw the camera bag left hanging on one of the pilings

    I guess it was dark at the time

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    Re: Woops !

    Nice one.

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    Now I know
    Thank you Dave

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    Re: Woops !

    I spotted the bag in this one today whilst clearing out some recent files and decided to process it.

    It was pretty dark at the time and I had been investigating the location with a view to it's potential for a star trail shot. I want to capture the centre of the trail between the uprights

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    ...so the bag was not yours????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavelength View Post
    ...so the bag was not yours????
    Yes it was mine, I had not realised it was in the shot as the viewfinder was so dark.

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    Re: Woops !

    Then "Woops" is the most apt title

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    Re: Woops !

    Quote Originally Posted by Stagecoach View Post
    Just for fun

    Woops !

    Grahame

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    Hi Grahame, funny situation May I ask how you lightened the rocks, did you use a torch or may be some light from a car?

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    Re: Woops !

    We could have successfully called this a starscape but the bag got in the way....a real Whoops!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bnnrcn View Post
    Hi Grahame, funny situation May I ask how you lightened the rocks, did you use a torch or may be some light from a car?
    Of course you may ask Binnur.

    The image only used natural ambient light and due to its location I believe not influenced by any unnatural source.
    It was shot at 4.52am, 1hr 16mins before sunrise and 6 hrs before moonset. The moon was roughly to the right and the sun would have eventually risen roughly to the left.

    This lighting condition gave a low dynamic range between sky, sea and foreground so all could be captured easily. Exposure was determined to give me an image close to what I would want my final picture to be.

    A bit about the settings used; 10sec was chosen because I'm presently experimenting with freezing star movement with respect to the 500 rule and FL used. The aperture of f/2.8 was chosen because I'm also experimenting with the results of this lens at its widest, knowing that anything with it closed down more is going to be better. The ISO resulting gives me more info of what I can work with.

    Here's the RAW before anything has been done and as can be seen there's a lot of scope there to use your imagination.

    Woops !

    With regard to the posted finished image I did lighten the structure/foreground slightly in relation to the sky by using a mask, very easy with this example but not so easy when a trees involved

    So basically it all comes down to planning and timing and this location unfortunately is made more difficult by the tidal range.

    Here's the location and sun/moon data.

    Woops !

    Edit : With the picture you recently posted Binnur I wonder if by waiting for the sun to drop more the dynamic range would have reduced enough to assist the shadows in relation to the sky and you would still have been able to capture the colours?
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    Re: Woops !

    Quote Originally Posted by pnodrog View Post
    A lovely sky and certainly different.

    A lot of dust on the sensor? It is a problem I usually only have at night.
    It could have been a sprinkling of stardust!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken MT View Post
    It could have been a sprinkling of stardust!

    Oh so it is not a Woops? - I thought Grahame may have succumbed to the sun/moon but he was simply away with the stardust sprinkling fairies....

    Grahame thanks for the explanation and technical details.

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    Thanks for the explanation Grahame I didn't guess that there was enough ambient light in such a scene.

    Regarding to your question about my image,I can see what you mean but I don't think I would be able to capture neither the image nor the colors as blue hour comes and everywhere gets even darker after a while . If there weren't mountains which hide the sun it would be easier to achieve what you think but close high hills always give me trouble.

    Your question made me think about shooting conditions of your image . If I shot my last image in your image's shooting conditions (I mean with the stars above the scene, but the moon musn't be behind the hills ) then I might get a low dynamic range image, because the stars and the moon would lit the scene properly What do you think?


    Quote Originally Posted by Stagecoach View Post
    Of course you may ask Binnur.

    The image only used natural ambient light and due to its location I believe not influenced by any unnatural source.
    It was shot at 4.52am, 1hr 16mins before sunrise and 6 hrs before moonset. The moon was roughly to the right and the sun would have eventually risen roughly to the left.

    This lighting condition gave a low dynamic range between sky, sea and foreground so all could be captured easily. Exposure was determined to give me an image close to what I would want my final picture to be.

    A bit about the settings used; 10sec was chosen because I'm presently experimenting with freezing star movement with respect to the 500 rule and FL used. The aperture of f/2.8 was chosen because I'm also experimenting with the results of this lens at its widest, knowing that anything with it closed down more is going to be better. The ISO resulting gives me more info of what I can work with.

    Here's the RAW before anything has been done and as can be seen there's a lot of scope there to use your imagination.

    Woops !

    With regard to the posted finished image I did lighten the structure/foreground slightly in relation to the sky by using a mask, very easy with this example but not so easy when a trees involved

    So basically it all comes down to planning and timing and this location unfortunately is made more difficult by the tidal range.

    Here's the location and sun/moon data.

    Woops !

    Edit : With the picture you recently posted Binnur I wonder if by waiting for the sun to drop more the dynamic range would have reduced enough to assist the shadows in relation to the sky and you would still have been able to capture the colours?

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    Re: Woops !

    Nice shot.
    Next time hang your bag at your tripod, that may be useful

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