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    re: This takes point and shoot to a new level F/1.7

    Hi Brian,

    It's the galaxy s8 in Europe. There are actually several phones with f1.7/f1.8 apertures. HTC, Nexus, LG, Huawei spring to immediate mind. Not uncommon now...

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    re: This takes point and shoot to a new level F/1.7

    Quote Originally Posted by tao2 View Post
    Hi Brian,

    It's the galaxy s8 in Europe. There are actually several phones with f1.7/f1.8 apertures. HTC, Nexus, LG, Huawei spring to immediate mind. Not uncommon now...
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    re: This takes point and shoot to a new level F/1.7

    My daughter and son-in-law use Galaxy phones and love them. I actually think that they may do a better job as a camera than the iPhone 6+ that I use...

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    re: This takes point and shoot to a new level F/1.7

    Quote Originally Posted by JBW View Post
    One camera is a bit old fashioned these days - phones like the iPhone 7 Plus and Huawei P9 & P10 have two cameras with different sensors or lenses on them.

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    re: This takes point and shoot to a new level F/1.7

    Going on the thread title - this takes point and shoot to a whole new level - https://petapixel.com/2017/07/07/cit...-always-focus/

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    re: This takes point and shoot to a new level F/1.7

    Quote Originally Posted by marlunn View Post
    Going on the thread title - this takes point and shoot to a whole new level - https://petapixel.com/2017/07/07/cit...-always-focus/
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    re: This takes point and shoot to a new level F/1.7

    Quote Originally Posted by tao2 View Post
    It's the galaxy s8 in Europe. There are actually several phones with f1.7/f1.8 apertures. HTC, Nexus, LG, Huawei spring to immediate mind. Not uncommon now...
    Indeed ... and also not to be 'confused', or should I say; assimilated to what that aperture implies on a 35mm film camera or modern digital of the FX, DX, APS-C or even m4/3.

    All things are relative, including the DoF it offers when paired with a tiny sensor, which will likely be in the ballpark of f/8-f/11 on a DSLR - but I guessing there, I can't be bothered to research and calculate.


    Sorry to be a grump, but I see both these as merely marketing ploys, plain and simple - no useful advance to photography in either case - they just want to flog us their phones and lenses.

    Perhaps I'd better try to get a better night's sleep tonight (it's way to warm for what I'm used to) and I might be less of a grump tomorrow

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    Re: This takes point and shoot to a new level F/1.7

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Humphries View Post

    Sorry to be a grump, but I see both these as merely marketing ploys, plain and simple - no useful advance to photography in either case - they just want to flog us their phones and lenses.

    Cynical Dave
    Straight out of my iPhone - I'll happily take their 'marketing ploys' and use them to capture images I'll keep for a very long time....

    This takes point and shoot to a new level F/1.7

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    Re: This takes point and shoot to a new level F/1.7

    Oh - I think that there are two equal and viable sides to the "Marketing Ploy" debate:

    I agree with Dave - marketing ploy in so far as very large apertures are advertised for cameras in phones, often with the allure of the advantages (e.g. Shallow DoF) of a similar F-Number when used on a typical DSLR camera.

    I agree with Robin - (sophisticated) phones can be used as serious Photographic tools.

    A salient point to note is, that Robin obviously knows the techniques which are necessary to secure Shallow Depth of Field Portraiture when using micro small digital image sensors . . . and also a bit about setting up the I-phone camera and something about composition and a slight knowledge of lighting, too.

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    Re: This takes point and shoot to a new level F/1.7

    It does not matter at all what you used if you captured an image you like that is suitable for how you wish to use it..... How you wish to use the image maybe the overriding factor providing the camera can successfully capture the image.

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    Re: This takes point and shoot to a new level F/1.7

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Pearl View Post
    Straight out of my iPhone - I'll happily take their 'marketing ploys' and use them to capture images I'll keep for a very long time....
    I was only referring to the two features mentioned in the thread; the 'fast' lens on the Samsung and the pancake lens, specifically NOT the dual lens/sensor technology on (for example) your phone Robin. Obviously I didn't make that clear enough!

    Good picture (of course)

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    Re: This takes point and shoot to a new level F/1.7

    Fast (er) lenses do make a huge difference on a phone as the minuscule sensors struggle in anything other than bright light. Even in reasonable brightness a phone will struggle at times and needs to increase the gain (raise the ISO) to keep a well exposed, sharp image.

    I do agree a lot of it is marketing but in every test I have read a phone with a brighter lens out performs those with a more limited f stop.

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