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    Prayer

    1.) In church

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    2.) Anytime

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    3.) Anywhere

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    Nice series.

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    Beginnings of an interesting series Sergio and some nice B&W treatment too.

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    Nicely captured. I agree with John that this might be the beginning of a photo essay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowman View Post
    Nice series.
    Thanks for commenting, John.

    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin52 View Post
    Beginnings of an interesting series Sergio and some nice B&W treatment too.
    Thank you, John.

    I do see patterns in my work and do come across similar moments. I will continue to work on this series.
    I use Nik software for my B&W processing.

    Quote Originally Posted by rpcrowe View Post
    Nicely captured. I agree with John that this might be the beginning of a photo essay.
    Thank you, Richard.

    Something to think about and work on.

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    Nice set of images and original.

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    I love the way you think and execute them. As I have said before, one shot essay. In each of them. The first one is really good, the second one to me is more emotional and the third like a thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John 2 View Post
    Nice set of images and original.
    Thank you, John, I appreciate that.

    Quote Originally Posted by IzzieK View Post
    I love the way you think and execute them. As I have said before, one shot essay. In each of them. The first one is really good, the second one to me is more emotional and the third like a thanks.
    Thank you, Izzie. I'm glad they spoke to you. They did to me. I have the utmost admiration and respect for people of faith, thus the reason for making these images.

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    How is that saying again goes? -- no one is an aetheist in a foxhole? We all pray, even an aetheist do though they do not really admit to do so. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by IzzieK View Post
    How is that saying again goes? -- no one is an aetheist in a foxhole? We all pray, even an aetheist do though they do not really admit to do so. LOL
    Izzie,
    If you are a believer, how would you know what Atheists do?
    I can only speak for myself, but I don't pray. Not ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RBSinTo View Post
    Izzie,
    If you are a believer, how would you know what Atheists do?
    I can only speak for myself, but I don't pray. Not ever.
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    I am rebooting my computer and deleting you from my list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IzzieK View Post
    How is that saying again goes? -- no one is an aetheist in a foxhole? We all pray, even an aetheist do though they do not really admit to do so. LOL


    Yes, Izzie, I've heard and seen it in writing. It's my opinion that everyone believes in something whatever that may be, and prayer depends on how you define it.
    Thanks for the chuckle.

    Quote Originally Posted by RBSinTo View Post
    Izzie,
    If you are a believer, how would you know what Atheists do?
    I can only speak for myself, but I don't pray. Not ever.
    Robert
    Robert, you didn't have an opinion about the technical or emotional merits of the series, but seem to want to debate who does and doesn't pray. I think the community lounge would be a more appropriate area for that type of discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergio M. View Post
    I think the community lounge would be a more appropriate area for that type of discussion.
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    Sergio, I can understand why you made this comment, but in all fairness, the title that you gave the series opened the door to a range of comments. In that context, I did not find any of them out of place, and note that Robert was not the first to make a non-technical one.

    While here, let me say that I really like this set, the B&W treatment is excellent, and I agree with John (Merlin52) and Richard that there could well be some follow up shots expanding the theme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billtils View Post
    Sergio, I can understand why you made this comment, but in all fairness, the title that you gave the series opened the door to a range of comments. In that context, I did not find any of them out of place, and note that Robert was not the first to make a non-technical one.

    While here, let me say that I really like this set, the B&W treatment is excellent, and I agree with John (Merlin52) and Richard that there could well be some follow up shots expanding the theme.
    Bill, thank you for the comments about the series.

    Yes, the title and images are about prayer, but in all fairness a true discussion of the many facets of prayer deserve a dedicated thread which would be better served in another forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergio M. View Post
    Bill, thank you for the comments about the series.

    ... a true discussion of the many facets of prayer deserve a dedicated thread which would be better served in another forum.

    Sergio
    Or another (non-photographic) site perhaps.

    It's a difficult one, as photography as a narrative always will (or should) include stimulating discussion on the story being portrayed, it's just that this particular story is often a trigger for the airing of deeply held beliefs and values (on both sides).

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    I like the images. Nice conversion to B/W.

    A title can be very suggestive. It's the photographer making me to think in a certain way. When I analyze the pictures I can't see a direct act of praying, not clear anyway.
    The first one is in a church. The man sitting has something in his hands and looks like reading it.
    The second one is a guy reading his book, his head resting on his hands. I think a quite normal position when one is sitting on the floor like him.
    The third one I don't understand. If it's praying, why does he pray with the bicycle between his legs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by george013 View Post
    I like the images. Nice conversion to B/W.

    A title can be very suggestive. It's the photographer making me to think in a certain way. When I analyze the pictures I can't see a direct act of praying, not clear anyway.
    The first one is in a church. The man sitting has something in his hands and looks like reading it.
    The second one is a guy reading his book, his head resting on his hands. I think a quite normal position when one is sitting on the floor like him.
    The third one I don't understand. If it's praying, why does he pray with the bicycle between his legs?

    George
    I thought that was the purpose of a title, to suggest something. As I said earlier, prayer depends on how you define it.

    The man is holding a folded American flag in his hand suggestive of someone who was killed in combat. He is offering up prayer to God.

    The man sitting down has a bible in his lap and he was actively praying.

    The third man rode up on his bike, got down, crossed himself, and began to pray.

    Thanks for your comments, George.

    Sergio
    Last edited by Sergio M.; 26th July 2017 at 03:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IzzieK View Post
    I am rebooting my computer and deleting you from my list.
    As you are entitled to do.
    Me? Knowing what you've done, I'll just have to try and soldier on as best as I can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergio M. View Post


    Yes, Izzie, I've heard and seen it in writing. It's my opinion that everyone believes in something whatever that may be, and prayer depends on how you define it.
    Thanks for the chuckle.



    Robert, you didn't have an opinion about the technical or emotional merits of the series, but seem to want to debate who does and doesn't pray. I think the community lounge would be a more appropriate area for that type of discussion.

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    Sergio,
    I didn't start the discussion. And from your reply you made your position clear, as you are entitled to do.
    As did I.
    Polarized sides on any issue usually waste their time debating anyway, so I wouldn't bother. I just stated a fact about my life. Nothing more.
    And about the images?
    I think one and three are the strongest. In two, the man could easily reading something in his lap rather than praying. In one and three, I feel there is no question what the subjects are doing, although in three, one might wonder why the biker chose that particular moment to pray.
    Robert

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBSinTo View Post
    Sergio,
    I didn't start the discussion. And from your reply you made your position clear, as you are entitled to do.
    As did I.
    Polarized sides on any issue usually waste their time debating anyway, so I wouldn't bother. I just stated a fact about my life. Nothing more.
    And about the images?
    I think one and three are the strongest. In two, the man could easily reading something in his lap rather than praying. In one and three, I feel there is no question what the subjects are doing, although in three, one might wonder why the biker chose that particular moment to pray.
    Robert
    Robert, I admire that fact of your life as much as I admire those that pray.

    I took the post by Izzie with the use of emoticons in the spirit of jest, but I know certain things can touch on sore spots. Thank you for making your point clear. I just didn't want the thread to be derailed by a heated debate.

    In the Hispanic culture it is customary for some to cross themselves and pray whenever they pass a church. This particular individual rode up on his bike (In front of San Fernando Cathedral), offered his prayer and rode on.

    Thanks for your opinion on the series.

    Sergio
    Last edited by Sergio M.; 25th July 2017 at 05:05 PM.

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