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    Mono Macro Turkey Feather Shot

    Mono Macro Turkey Feather Shot

    ISO 100 ~ Shutter Speed 1s ~ F/16 ~ One Desk Lamp

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    Re: Mono Macro Turkey Feather Shot

    Interesting minimalist patterns. However, look at the histogram:

    Mono Macro Turkey Feather Shot

    that confirms what the image shows: very little contrast, which makes the patterns not stand out. Simply adjusting the black point to get a more complete tonal range would do wonders, but you could then add contrast with an S-curve and local contrast to get more pop. I don't have software on this computer, so I can't show this.

    This can be done with pretty much any basic editing software. The one thing that varies from software to software is local contrast, or something similar. In LR and ACR, the closest thing is "clarity". In many software packages, you can increase local contrast using unsharp mask, using a very large radius. A starting point could be 20%, radius 50, threshold 0 (see https://luminous-landscape.com/contrast-enhancement/). There is a nice tutorial about this on this site, https://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tu...nhancement.htm.
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    Re: Mono Macro Turkey Feather Shot

    Quote Originally Posted by DanK View Post
    Interesting minimalist patterns. However, look at the histogram:

    Mono Macro Turkey Feather Shot

    that confirms what the image shows: very little contrast, which makes the patterns not stand out. Simply adjusting the black point to get a more complete tonal range would do wonders, but you could then add contrast with an S-curve and local contrast with USM to get more pop. I don't have software on this computer, so I can't show this.
    Dan, it's a turkey feather. There isn't a lot of contrast. But yes I could have processed it for pop. Actually I did. Didn't look very good. looking at the histogram shows me a well balanced albeit not a fully stretched out histogram.

    In the full colour version the histogram stretches out to both ends.

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    Re: Mono Macro Turkey Feather Shot

    shows me a well balanced albeit not a fully stretched out histogram.
    Brian,

    It's all a matter of taste, and if you prefer this image with low contrast, then that's how you should process it.

    However, the quote above suggests to me that you don't fully understand the function of a histogram. I assume that what you mean by "balanced" is that with the exception of the right-side tail, the histogram is roughly symmetrical. There is no reason why a symmetrical histogram is in the general case better than an asymmetrical one. The histogram simply represents the proportion of pixels at different luminance values. Sometimes an ideal exposure is highly skewed, and sometimes it has two or more peaks. For example, this image should have a big peak at the left end and then a tail stretching out to the right because I deliberately made the background pure black, and there is a lot of background:

    [IMG]Mono Macro Turkey Feather Shot[/IMG]

    So the question isn't 'is this symmetrical,' but rather 'does it give me information about how I can change the image to make it look more like I want?' In the case of your image, narrow histogram is just one more indication that the image has relatively little tonal range, which means that the lines and contrast that usually make B&W images interesting (to me, not necessarily to anyone else) are not made to stand out. The symmetry of the larger mass didn't give me any useful information at all.

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    Re: Mono Macro Turkey Feather Shot

    I had to click on this thread just to see what could possibly be interesting about a turkey feather. What a pleasant surprise. You you chose a great composition. And the decision to go with B/W was a good one IMO. I did try simply kicking up the clarity slider a touch in LR and it pulls even more detail, Clarity in B/W effectively moves the black and white points out as suggested by DanK.

    I guess if the photo is intended to be all about the geometry then mission accomplished. If it's about the texture, then a bit more contrast is a good idea. Either way it's really cool. Very creative idea.

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    Re: Mono Macro Turkey Feather Shot

    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernFocus View Post
    I had to click on this thread just to see what could possibly be interesting about a turkey feather. What a pleasant surprise. You you chose a great composition. And the decision to go with B/W was a good one IMO. I did try simply kicking up the clarity slider a touch in LR and it pulls even more detail, Clarity in B/W effectively moves the black and white points out as suggested by DanK.

    I guess if the photo is intended to be all about the geometry then mission accomplished. If it's about the texture, then a bit more contrast is a good idea. Either way it's really cool. Very creative idea.
    This was indeed about softness and geometry. What I have come to think of as my Nat King Cole technique, smooth and pleasing.

    However I'm about to post a turkey feather shot using the tried and true Tina Turner technique.

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    Re: Mono Macro Turkey Feather Shot

    Quote Originally Posted by DanK View Post
    Brian,

    It's all a matter of taste, and if you prefer this image with low contrast, then that's how you should process it.

    However, the quote above suggests to me that you don't fully understand the function of a histogram. I assume that what you mean by "balanced" is that with the exception of the right-side tail, the histogram is roughly symmetrical. There is no reason why a symmetrical histogram is in the general case better than an asymmetrical one. The histogram simply represents the proportion of pixels at different luminance values. Sometimes an ideal exposure is highly skewed, and sometimes it has two or more peaks. For example, this image should have a big peak at the left end and then a tail stretching out to the right because I deliberately made the background pure black, and there is a lot of background:

    [IMG]Mono Macro Turkey Feather Shot[/IMG]

    So the question isn't 'is this symmetrical,' but rather 'does it give me information about how I can change the image to make it look more like I want?' In the case of your image, narrow histogram is just one more indication that the image has relatively little tonal range, which means that the lines and contrast that usually make B&W images interesting (to me, not necessarily to anyone else) are not made to stand out. The symmetry of the larger mass didn't give me any useful information at all.

    Dan
    Dan, this is one powerful shot. Like you I'm doubtful that I fully understand histograms. Then again I can't think of anything that I do fully understand.

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