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    Old Montana Barn

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    Re: Old Montana Barn

    Sharon, IMHO this photo would be better if you were closer to the barn, and included less foreground.


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    A bit of a strange conversion. At first glance I thought that the fields were covered in snow.

    Getting the right tonal range into the various areas if the image is always the challenge when doing a B&W conversion. Why did you decide to go B&W here, rather than leave it as a colour image?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred M View Post
    A bit of a strange conversion. At first glance I thought that the fields were covered in snow.

    Getting the right tonal range into the various areas if the image is always the challenge when doing a B&W conversion. Why did you decide to go B&W here, rather than leave it as a colour image?
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    There were infrared aspects to the conversion.

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    Re: Old Montana Barn

    Color with a crop of the foreground

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovelife65 View Post
    Thanks,

    There were infrared aspects to the conversion.
    That explains it. Yes, IR would show the vegetation as being light coloured as it reflects IR wavelengths. I find that your colour shot works better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred M View Post
    That explains it. Yes, IR would show the vegetation as being light coloured as it reflects IR wavelengths. I find that your colour shot works better.
    My fault for not identifying that as it will look strange if unknown. It’s not for everyone many hate it. I was using it for fun mostly and to get an idea of whether to play more or not.
    I left the big foreground in the original image to convey a more vast open space but I didn’t leave enuff of it in 😑

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovelife65 View Post
    My fault for not identifying that as it will look strange if unknown. It’s not for everyone many hate it. I was using it for fun mostly and to get an idea of whether to play more or not.
    Sharon - what fooled me is that in true IR images, the vegetation appears to be almost snow white. Here it is more of a middle gray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred M View Post
    Sharon - what fooled me is that in true IR images, the vegetation appears to be almost snow white. Here it is more of a middle gray.
    You are correct I chickened out from posting the true IR version which was a little stupid as I have only given it the gray look you notice. No fooling manfred lol 🙃

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    Re: Old Montana Barn

    Nice effort, I like the composition as shown, the little patch could be cloned out and looks like you cropped in the color version. Your conversion process seems to have shifted tones somewhat darker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovelife65 View Post
    You are correct I chickened out from posting the true IR version which was a little stupid as I have only given it the gray look you notice. No fooling manfred lol 🙃
    I don't pick up on everything. I did some IR work in the distant past, so I have a feeling for what the images look like.

    That being said, the vegetation goes white look only happens if a heavy red filter is put on the lens (Wratten 25A) for a B&W shot, which is the standard approach. Unfiltered, the look you got is more what one would get.

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    Re: Old Montana Barn

    Sharon, I like your color version much better. Nice job.


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    Sharon, I also prefer the colour version but would retain the original view with more foreground. The cropped version is very cramped to my mind.
    Cheers Ole

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    I like the "IR" version but agree with the closer crop suggestion. The color version, IMO, is WAY too saturated. The colors don't look real. I absolutely love the subject matter, though. I have an attraction to old buildings like a moth to a porch light. They make great photos.

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    Re: Old Montana Barn

    I wondered what would happen if you added a bit more texture to the foreground, lightened the main cloud and darkened the sky to give it more depth, yet stil maintain some of that IR quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovelife65 View Post
    Color with a crop of the foreground

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    I'd crop the empty-ish space at right and the receding fence which is leading the eye out of the frame. Cropping mountains at right also makes more of a in-the-valley look. I disagree with the comment about WAY over-saturated ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccphoto View Post
    I wondered what would happen if you added a bit more texture to the foreground, lightened the main cloud and darkened the sky to give it more depth, yet stil maintain some of that IR quality.

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    I like this edit quite a bit thank you for taking the time to do so!

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    Re: Old Montana Barn

    Thank you Ted, for a very nice edit.
    I did nothing with the saturation of the photo, rarely do I touch that in post processing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovelife65 View Post
    Thank you Ted, for a very nice edit.
    Thanks 2U2 Sharon.

    I did nothing with the saturation of the photo, rarely do I touch that in post processing.
    I understand and that's what I thought. Sometimes saturation, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovelife65 View Post
    Thank you Ted, for a very nice edit.
    I did nothing with the saturation of the photo, rarely do I touch that in post processing.
    It can be a camera setting. Look in the camera menu for different looks. For my Nikon I can choose for flat,standard,neutral and vivid. Beside some other monochrome.

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