LR & PS Workflow - cropping

[Rufus]

Just one thing and I stop.
Where is this based on?

Do your editing without cropping. Later you can crop using all kind of programs. And if you save the original you can redo it again, and again and again.

My working hypothesis is based on my recollection of what I have done recently. It is a guess on my part which I should try to prove or disprove. Then I need to identify the root cause and adjust my workflow accordingly.

The point about cropping arose precisely because I did not want to start from an original and do all the editing again. Cropping later would certainly give me more flexibility.

[DanK]

That means you don't use lr as a plugin. You call for lr to open a complete new image.

I don't know what that would even mean. A plug-in to what? To Photoshop? As far as I know, LR doesn't function as a plugin to anything else at all. There are many things that plug into LR, but I have never heard of any way to use LR as a plug-in to anything else. The closest thing to using LR as a plug-to Photoshop in would be to call ACR from within Photoshop, which was not what the OP asked about. I was discussing what the OP raised: editing in LR, passing the image to Photoshop, and passing it back to LR.

The problem with many of your comments about LR is that you don't use is and therefore don't understand it. You speculate. Sometimes that is useful, but sometimes, as in this case, it distracts or derails the conversation.

[Rufus]

File_save: file goes back to LR and is synced to the catalog

File_save_as, even if the name isn't changed: the file is saved to the same directory but is not imported into the catalog. You have to sync manually.

Yes indeed. Normally I would File_Save. When Photoshop generates a new file I will need to use File_Save_As. I have assumed I need to save the new file into the same directory as my other Lightroom files.

I think it is the manual syncing of that directory within Lightroom that is defeating me. I had assumed I need to Import the new image but I now see that Lightroom has a menu item Library_Synchronise folder... I shall find out more about that tomorrow, but I think you may have put me on the right path!

Thank you for your comment, Dan.

[george013]

Yes indeed. Normally I would File_Save. When Photoshop generates a new file I will need to use File_Save_As. I have assumed I need to save the new file into the same directory as my other Lightroom files.

I think it is the manual syncing of that directory within Lightroom that is defeating me. I had assumed I need to Import the new image but I now see that Lightroom has a menu item Library_Synchronise folder... I shall find out more about that tomorrow, but I think you may have put me on the right path!

Thank you for your comment, Dan.

In general in Windows Save means saving the file with the same extension in the same directory, or just where it came from. Save As gives you the possiblity to change that. If the image was parsed from lr to ps without an intermediary file then there is no original extension and directory. Don't know how ps/lr are dealing with that.


Dan,
David wrote

...then used Photoshop to burn various selections and saved the file back into LR.

I translated that for me as something using lr as a plugin. Maybe wrong. I know it should be impossible. Just mentioned it as being the other way of parsing the image through an intermediary file. Which would mean nothing else as opening lr with that file.

George

[DanK]

In general in Windows Save means saving the file with the same extension in the same directory, or just where it came from. Save As gives you the possiblity to change that. If the image was parsed from lr to ps without an intermediary file then there is no original extension and directory. Don't know how ps/lr are dealing with that.

I'm not in a place where I can re-test this, but if my memory is correct, the issue is Photoshop and Lightroom, not Windows. That is, IF I remember correctly, Lightroom will not automatically import the image if you use File-Save-As from Photoshop even if you save with the identical name and extension in the same location. I'll try to remember to test this again at a later date, but perhaps someone else can (dis)confirm in the meantime.

[george013]

I'm not in a place where I can re-test this, but if my memory is correct, the issue is Photoshop and Lightroom, not Windows. That is, IF I remember correctly, Lightroom will not automatically import the image if you use File-Save-As from Photoshop even if you save with the identical name and extension in the same location. I'll try to remember to test this again at a later date, but perhaps someone else can (dis)confirm in the meantime.

This would make sense. Save As lets the user to decide place, name and extension.

George