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    Re: Today's sunset, The Netherlands 21 sept 2019

    Sorry, this is not working all that well for me, Arnold.

    That bright area at the top of the image just overwhelms the rest of the image. I suspect that it is the source of the veiling flare we see in the image.
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    Re: Today's sunset, The Netherlands 21 sept 2019

    Nice capture.

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    Re: Today's sunset, The Netherlands 21 sept 2019

    An interesting blend of DOF and light, nice effort.

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    Re: Today's sunset, The Netherlands 21 sept 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred M View Post
    Sorry, this is not working all that well for me, Arnold.

    That bright area at the top of the image just overwhelms the rest of the image. I suspect that it is the source of the veiling flare we see in the image.
    Manfred, the bright area at the top is the sun.

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    Re: Today's sunset, The Netherlands 21 sept 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Brell View Post
    Manfred, the bright area at the top is the sun.
    I realized that. However, I agree with Manfred that the resulting flair is a problem. It robs the flower of definition.


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    Re: Today's sunset, The Netherlands 21 sept 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Brell View Post
    Manfred, the bright area at the top is the sun.
    Given your title of the piece, I thought this was the case.

    That being said, the issues identified in response #2 are still issues.

    The human visual system is keyed to areas of brightness, so the viewer's attention will go there and the veiling flare softens the overall image and the scene and especially the flowers are all washed out. These two issues are quite common with this type of shot, based on the decisions you made in how you framed the shot.

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    Re: Today's sunset, The Netherlands 21 sept 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Brell View Post
    Today's sunset, The Netherlands 21 sept 2019
    Arnold,

    Was the lens veiling flare deliberate or perhaps an unintended consequence that you liked and posted anyway?
    Last edited by xpatUSA; 22nd September 2019 at 02:39 PM.

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    Re: Today's sunset, The Netherlands 21 sept 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by xpatUSA View Post
    Arnold,

    Was the lens veiling flare deliberate or perhaps an unintended consequence that you liked and posted anyway?
    I think it was not the right thing to do in retrospect.

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    Re: Today's sunset, The Netherlands 21 sept 2019

    I think it does have an overall nice dreamy affect.

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    Re: Today's sunset, The Netherlands 21 sept 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Brell View Post
    I think it was not the right thing to do in retrospect.
    I would agree, but one important way that we learn is by making mistakes and finding ways to avoid them the next time. Higher end lenses have more sophisticated lens coatings that reduce flare. If you are shooting with a clear or UV filter, these contribute to the issue as well.

    Some of this can be reduced, but not eliminated, in post-production by increasing contrast and micro-contrast.

    Keep on experimenting!

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