Mirrorless

[Shadowman]

Interesting that an APS-C sensor would be unveiled for mirrorless technology.

https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-pr...L3wXGC2DyOQGGk

[xpatUSA]

Interesting that an APS-C sensor would be unveiled for mirrorless technology.

They do mention prior 'Z' models such as the Z7, Nikon's first full-frame mirrorless camera. So, perhaps overall size is the factor, assuming that smaller lenses (will) also exist for that mount.

[Manfred M]

Canon announced the EOS-M APS-C, mirrorless camera back in 2012 and for the most part seem to have ignored that line ever since.

I suspect that Nikon has updated the technology for their APS-C sensors, so they are simply marketing that aspect of the camera.

[Shadowman]

They do mention prior 'Z' models such as the Z7, Nikon's first full-frame mirrorless camera. So, perhaps overall size is the factor, assuming that smaller lenses (will) also exist for that mount.

A comparison which might mean a lot to some and not much at all to others, perhaps the biggest difference for the consumer and reason behind the offering is price.

https://www.ephotozine.com/article/n...z6-vs-z7-34091

[rpcrowe]

Mirrorless APSC cameras are fine... They are small and handy to use... The problem is that many lenses are way too big for a crop sensor camera (lets use the A6xxx cameras as an example)...

And speaking about price... I think that this Nikon crop sensor camera is Nikon's way of replying to the new A6100 introduced recently by Sony.

Sony introduced an A6600 which I did not buy. I got an A7iii and a Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 lens for just a bit less than the A6600 and the new 16-50mm f.2,8 OSS lens...

I do own a couple of crop sensor mirrorless cameras and enjoy using them. They are especially nice when equipped with a decently small prime lens. The A6400 is a great camera for portraits when equipped with the reasonably small and relatively reasonably priced 50mm f/1.8 OSS lens giving you a 75mm equivalent focal length. I also really like this camera when equipped with the smallish Sony 85mm f/1.8 lens for a tighter shot and with the super small and super sharp Rokinon 12mm f/2.0 lens.

The problem, as I see it, with Sony APSC cameras is that many lenses, especially zoom lenses, of decent image quality are quite big and heavy, negating the size advantage of the APSC A6400. I have used the small Sony 28-70mm kit lens and the bit larger but, still small Sony-Zeiss 24-70mm f/4.0 Vario Tessar and was not blown away by the image quality from either of these lenses and, despite their smallish size, did not keep either lens.

However, new lenses for the Sony e-mount are appearing at regular intervals. Sony has introduced that 16-50mm f/2.8 zoom (over priced but, a very nice lens) and has introduced a 70-350mm zoom specifically for APSC cameras which is relatively light weight and fairly small and while expensive, is not horribly over priced. Third parties are also introducing lenses small enough to use on crop sensor cameras. One of these is the 28-75mm f/2.8 Tamron - AND I AM BLOWN AWAY BY THE IQ FROM THIS LENS. The very small and absolutely inexpensive Rokinon 12mm f/2.0 is a joy to use as is the Sigma 30mm f/1.4. Both of these two lenses enhance the capabilities of the APSC Sony cameras at a low weight and a cost that will not break the bank.

I have both full-frame and crop sensor Sony mirrorless cameras. I am going to visit some ethnic festivals today. My plan is to carry my A7iii with the Sony 85mm lens and to have my A6400 equipped with one of my Legacy lenses for some artistic renditions. I will have the A7iii around my neck on a strap and the A6400 in a small pouch. I will probably stick my Tamron 28-75mm in the pouch also. And maybe the Rokinon 12mm f/2.0 - JUST IN CASE. That would still be a relatively lightweight kit...

[dje]

Nikon are the last of the big four to bring out an APS-C mirrorless. Like Sony, they use the same mount for their mirroless FF and APS-C. Canon uses different mounts for their FF and APS-C mirrorless, which is possibly a bit of a drawback for some. I don't think Fuji has a FF mirrorless, just APS-C.

Nikon are releasing only two DX lenses with the Z50, a small 16-50mm and a 50-250mm. There is apparently one more DX lens in the pipeline. Any FX Z lens can be used on the Z50 and a great many of the F series lenses can also be used with full functionality on a Z camera using the FTZ adaptor.

The big attraction in the Z50 for me is price and size. It looks like it could be a good travel camera. As someone with a foot in both Nikon and Sony camps (Nikon FF and Sony APS-C), I will seriously consider the Z50 when I can get my hands on one as a replacement for my ageing Sony APS-C. It will be interesting to see how good it's eye AF is.

Dave

[xpatUSA]

Originally Posted by xpatUSA ... perhaps overall size is the factor, assuming that smaller lenses (will) also exist for that mount.

A comparison which might mean a lot to some and not much at all to others ...

Please pardon the suggestion.

[Shadowman]

Please pardon the suggestion.

My comment was referring to the camera comparisons (such as high ISO and shutter speeds), high ISO specs can send shivers through some reviewers fingers but for most photographers quality of capture at ISO 6400 would be enough.

[rpcrowe]

Multi gazillion ISO capability and billion-trillion megapixels are sales ploys that sell cameras.

[xpatUSA]

Multi gazillion ISO capability and billion-trillion megapixels are sales ploys that sell cameras.

I think I'll stick with 100 ASA and less than 5MP, thank you ...

[LePetomane]

I don't think Fuji has a FF mirrorless, just APS-C.

Fujifilm has APS-C and medium format. I interacted with their reps in my previous life and I don't think they have any intention of a full frame sensor.

[dje]

Fujifilm has APS-C and medium format. I interacted with their reps in my previous life and I don't think they have any intention of a full frame sensor.

Indeed Paul. I wonder why they are avoiding FF?

Dave

[Manfred M]

Indeed Paul. I wonder why they are avoiding FF?

Dave

I remember reading that FujiFilm feels that the market is too crowded for another "me too" full frame camera, so they have concentrated on both APS-C and medium format. I spoke to one of their "ambassadors" and got a similar answer from her.

[LePetomane]

What Manfred said. Fujifilm is a medical device company that produces photographic equipment. I have spoken to reps about this and their feeling is that it would be too costly to come up with a new series of lenses for full frame. Nikon did it for their full frame mirrorless but they are a lot bigger company.

[Shadowman]

A little something to go with your mirrorless camera.

https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-pr...95-s-noct.html