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    A Test of MetaData Editing ... EXIF, IPTC, XMP

    Some time back, I inquired about the best meta-data editor. In the end, I chose XnView Classic. A long time has elapsed while I pedantically absorbed the fundamentals of captions, keywords, etc., ad nauseam.

    Anyhow, I'm putting up this pic to personally check that all my IPTC/XMP edits got in:

    A Test of MetaData Editing ... EXIF, IPTC, XMP

    Feel free to look if you have an on-line EXIF viewer such as a browser add-on.

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    Re: A Test of MetaData Editing ... EXIF, IPTC, XMP

    Foot - lambert? I haven't seen that unit of measure being used in over 45 years (in a 1st year university physics text book). Candela / square meter ever since...

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    Re: A Test of MetaData Editing ... EXIF, IPTC, XMP

    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred M View Post
    Foot - lambert? I haven't seen that unit of measure being used in over 45 years (in a 1st year university physics text book). Candela / square meter ever since...
    Not guilty, yer honour - as I'm sure you realize.

    It might be a calculated value in Raskin's app because lacks an EXIF tag number ...

    ... Anyway, US Customary Units can be useful sometimes. Like my illuminance meter measures small values with much more resolution in foot candles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xpatUSA View Post
    US Customary Units can be useful sometimes. Like my illuminance meter measures small values with much more resolution in foot candles.
    Yes but easy to confuse at times. First job I had was with a USA based engineering firm that built power plants we used a unit MK BTU, where M = 1000 and K = 1000. I would have thought MM or KK would have been clearer. So far as I can remember, the MK BTU came from the ASME pressure vessel standards.

    US Customary units were a bit strange, especially in Canada, where Imperial units came into play, as well as SI units. I was a member of the last engineering class at my university that was trained to use both SI and Imperial (but not Customary US units). The year behind me was taught purely in SI.

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    Re: A Test of MetaData Editing ... EXIF, IPTC, XMP

    Quote Originally Posted by xpatUSA View Post
    Some time back, I inquired about the best meta-data editor. In the end, I chose XnView Classic. A long time has elapsed while I pedantically absorbed the fundamentals of captions, keywords, etc., ad nauseam.
    Stop Press. After actually trying to do Hierarchical Keywords in XnView, I found it quite tedious. So I've bit the bullet, and splashed out a buck or two on Photo Mechanic and gotten a copy of LR's Foundation Keyword list ... es preety beeg ...

    ... only thousands of images to go and I'll be able to type in e.g. sunflower and find them all ...

    Any tips gratefully accepted!

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    Re: A Test of MetaData Editing ... EXIF, IPTC, XMP

    Quote Originally Posted by xpatUSA View Post
    After actually trying to do Hierarchical Keywords in XnView, I found it quite tedious. So I've bit the bullet, and splashed out a buck or two on Photo Mechanic ...

    Any tips gratefully accepted!
    Found a big drawback in Photo Mechanic. The search function only looks in the current folder or "contact sheet" as they call it. XnView on the other hand looks everywhere in a selected folder and down through all it's sub-folders (if that option is checked).

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    Quote Originally Posted by xpatUSA View Post
    ...The search function only looks in the current folder or "contact sheet" as they call it.
    True, the search function looks in the current contact sheet, but a contact sheet can include images from multiple folders. I don't know if that is useful in your workflow. Photo Mechanic Plus (or PM+), currently in public beta, has a catalog that brings more DAM-like functionality. I have used it since this summer and I like the direction I see, but the software is not yet feature complete, nor is it bug free :-)

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    Re: A Test of MetaData Editing ... EXIF, IPTC, XMP

    Quote Originally Posted by odds View Post
    Originally Posted by xpatUSA A Test of MetaData Editing ... EXIF, IPTC, XMP ...The search function only looks in the current folder or "contact sheet" as they call it.
    True, the search function looks in the current contact sheet, but a contact sheet can include images from multiple folders. I don't know if that is useful in your workflow.
    Thank you, Odd. Yes, I discovered that fact after I had posted the above comment. I did try it out. My current work is adding metadata to thousands of images scattered all over my hard drive in many folders and (worse) many sub-folders nested up to three or four deep. So, what I found was that after combining many, many folders the resulting contact sheet was huge - and scrolling up and down (just to see the high-lighted thumb-nails) very tiresome. So, for now, I keep XnView for searching. I will keep the Mechanic because it is much better at applying metadata than XnView. Nothing is perfect, eh?

    Photo Mechanic Plus (or PM+), currently in public beta, has a catalog that brings more DAM-like functionality. I have used it since this summer and I like the direction I see, but the software is not yet feature complete, nor is it bug free :-)

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    That is very good news, thank you for that.
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