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    Looking for an ultra-wide angle lens

    Hello friends and fellow photographers

    Hope you are all well and safe.

    Presently I use my good old 18-55mm VR kit lens that came with my old D90, on my present camera body D7200. Lately, I am thinking about getting an ultra-wide-angle lens for landscape photography, which is one of my most preferred genres.

    My budget is not unlimited and I have no problem with a third party lens provided the lens produces CA free, sharp results. Please suggest some good lenses for my requirement.

    Thank you all.

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    I use to use a Sigma 10-20 f3.5 on my old D90 than D7000, which would be if on a full frame camera equal to 15-30mm. I found it to be a great lens, if in a tight area liked to shoot inside of a church. Also works fine in open areas once you get use to it. What I did with it the most was to shoot pans 3 to 5 shot single row shots then stitch in Photoshop and crop to size.

    Cheers: Allan

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    The Tokina f/2.8 11-16mm was my go to wide angle lens when I was shooting on my D90. There were two versions; the one that I bought required the motor in the D90's body for focusing and Tokina brought out a newer lens with the same optics but with an internal focus motor. Neither had VR, but that is largely unnecessary with a wide angle lens.

    Their most recent design is an f/2.8 11 - 20mm which is well regarded too.

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    I use an older Tamron 11-18mm designed for crop-frame dslrs. No stabilization, but as Manfred said, it’s not really necessary on a super wide. You can probably pick one up at a reasonable price.

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    Re: Looking for an ultra-wide angle lens

    Thank you for your replies.
    The positive thing about sigma is it's fixed aperture. Whereas it is bit pricier than Nikon 10-20mm which has a VR, and it's also a AF-Dx lens. I am not sure whether I would get Tokina, but surely I would try.

    What is your opinion about Nikkor AF-P 10-20mm DX lens? It's much cheaper than both Tokina and Sigma.

    I am posting links from Amazon India for reference.

    https://www.amazon.in/dp/B072639587/..._eHmDFb9SHHPRD

    https://www.amazon.in/dp/B00SXU9RRQ/..._QKmDFbJ6HBZV9

    https://www.amazon.in/dp/B003G28AZG/..._4MmDFb0MC7P1W


    The one from Sigma is currently unavailable. The older non HSM version is retailing for nearly 7k more than Nikon.


    Sigma 10-20mm F3.5 EX DC Lens
    https://dl.flipkart.com/dl/sigma-10-...oduct.share.pp

    I am yet to enquire the price offline, but if Sigma is not available online, the offline price is also expected to be higher.

    Thanks again.

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    Re: Looking for an ultra-wide angle lens

    For what it's worth I had the Sigma 10-20mm for Canon in my Canon days and really liked it. Mainly used for architecture and interiors, not too big, not too pricey, good quality. Sold it a year ago I'm afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chataignier View Post
    For what it's worth I had the Sigma 10-20mm for Canon in my Canon days and really liked it. Mainly used for architecture and interiors, not too big, not too pricey, good quality. Sold it a year ago I'm afraid.
    I had their SA-mount 8 to 16mm f/2.8 for a few years. Worked well on my 1.7 crop DSLR -just under 14mm equiv.
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    I ws very impressed with the quality that I got from my 12-24mm f/2.8 Tokina lens when shooting with my Canon APSC cameras. The 12mm equals 18mm on a crop camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CIC View Post
    Hello friends and fellow photographers

    Hope you are all well and safe.

    Presently I use my good old 18-55mm VR kit lens that came with my old D90, on my present camera body D7200. Lately, I am thinking about getting an ultra-wide-angle lens for landscape photography, which is one of my most preferred genres.

    My budget is not unlimited and I have no problem with a third party lens provided the lens produces CA free, sharp results. Please suggest some good lenses for my requirement.

    Thank you all.
    I've been using the Tamron 10-24 on Canon for some years, and like it a lot. I shoot in raw, so have no problems with CA.

    do you shoot raw,or Jpeg? If Jpeg, the camera may not correct third-party lens defects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CIC View Post
    . . . I am thinking about getting an ultra-wide-angle lens for landscape photography, which is one of my most preferred genres.

    My budget is not unlimited and I have no problem with a third party lens provided the lens produces CA free, sharp results. Please suggest some good lenses for my requirement. . .

    The positive thing about sigma is it's fixed aperture. Whereas it is bit pricier than Nikon 10-20mm which has a VR, and it's also a AF-Dx lens. I am not sure whether I would get Tokina, but surely I would try.

    What is your opinion about Nikkor AF-P 10-20mm DX lens? It's much cheaper than both Tokina and Sigma.
    Consider you value a non-varying maximum aperture and the stated purpose is for Landscape Photography and price is a noted criterion, consider something like a Samyang 10mm F/2.8 (aka Rokinon).

    Don't know about India but in AUS the Samyang can be bought new for about $AUD 80 less than the Nikon zoom that you mention.

    Manual focus and lack of VR should not be a concern for Landscape work, my feelings on stop down metering for Landscape is very simple - I'd use exposure bracket in any situation, anyway.

    One advantage of the F/2.8 is its application for night time skyline and astro-photography.

    Sure it is a Prime Lens, not a zoom, but depending upon how you are displaying your Final Images, (i.e. referring to the image quality required) you have a lot of cropping options in Post Production shooting Landscapes at 10mm on APS-C Format.

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    Thank you all for your replies.

    I always shoot RAW, no question of shooting JPEG.

    Sadly, two factors have severely affected the availability of lenses in my country, one is this pandemic and second is the tense political situation between India and China. Hence I am not sure whether Samyang lenses will be available for a fair price.

    I am looking for 10mm as starting point because I have an interest to shoot at night time, but that is not going to be my main interest. I agree, a faster lens and fixed aperture is always better than a variable aperture, but shouldthat be a deal breaker for Nikkor 10-20 in comparison to Sigma 10-20mm?

    Tamrons are also not available readily, more so when it comes to specialised lenses like these, which are generally never used by DSLR wielding consumers in my country. If you check the two biggest online markets of our country, viz. Flipkart and Amazon India, you would understand what I mean.

    Thanks again.

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    Re: Looking for an ultra-wide angle lens

    Quote Originally Posted by Srijan
    My budget is not unlimited and I have no problem with a third party lens provided the lens produces CA-free, sharp results.
    Srijan, I thought that all lenses produce CA.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter
    I shoot in raw, so have no problems with CA.
    Peter, I don't understand how shooting in raw affects CA produced by a lens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpcrowe View Post
    I ws very impressed with the quality that I got from my 12-24mm f/2.8 Tokina lens when shooting with my Canon APSC cameras. The 12mm equals 18mm on a crop camera.
    Are Canon "APS-C" cameras now 1.5 crop, Richard? I know they used to be 1.6 crop.

    12mm is over 20mm equivalant on my Sigma, FWIW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CIC View Post
    . . . Sadly, two factors have severely affected the availability of lenses in my country, one is this pandemic and second is the tense political situation between India and China. . . .
    I didn't factor that. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xpatUSA View Post
    Are Canon "APS-C" cameras now 1.5 crop, Richard? I know they used to be 1.6 crop.

    12mm is over 20mm equivalant on my Sigma, FWIW.
    So right, 1.6x, I am getting too used to the Sony system...

    Never-the-less, The Tokina system of wide angle lenses are quite good. 12-24mm and 11-24mm.
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    Thanks friends for your repliers.

    It seems 10-20mm Nikkor is the most available lens right now in the market. Thdere is a bundle deal going on with this lens and Nikkor 40mm Dx macro. The bundle costs same as sigma 10-20mm non-HSM lens.

    Samyang 10mm is not available.
    So should I wait for Tokina 11-24mm and Sigma 10-20mm to become available again in the market?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CIC View Post
    Thanks friends for your repliers.

    It seems 10-20mm Nikkor is the most available lens right now in the market. Thdere is a bundle deal going on with this lens and Nikkor 40mm Dx macro. The bundle costs same as sigma 10-20mm non-HSM lens.

    Samyang 10mm is not available.
    So should I wait for Tokina 11-24mm and Sigma 10-20mm to become available again in the market?
    The Nikon lens is well regarded in the marketplace as a quality lens. The main reason that most people will use a third party lens has generally been either a lower price or having features not available with the OEM brand.

    The main downside of Sigma is that their controls (focus and zoom) run in the opposite direction as native Nikon lenses. Tokina works the same as Nikon, but once one gets used to it, not a big deal.

    Neither the Nikon nor Sigma lenses are particularly "fast", i.e. smaller maximum aperture lenses. This may or may not be important to you. If you are looking at doing night photography, that could be a deal breaker, but if you are looking at landscape or similar work in daytime conditions, it would not matter as much. That decision generally results in a lighter and less expensive lens.

    When I bought my Tokina, one of the deciding factors was low light performance, so the extra 2/3 of a stop is shooting speed was the key decision in buying that lens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred M View Post
    The Nikon lens is well regarded in the marketplace as a quality lens. The main reason that most people will use a third party lens has generally been either a lower price or having features not available with the OEM brand.

    The main downside of Sigma is that their controls (focus and zoom) run in the opposite direction as native Nikon lenses. Tokina works the same as Nikon, but once one gets used to it, not a big deal.

    Neither the Nikon nor Sigma lenses are particularly "fast", i.e. smaller maximum aperture lenses. This may or may not be important to you. If you are looking at doing night photography, that could be a deal breaker, but if you are looking at landscape or similar work in daytime conditions, it would not matter as much. That decision generally results in a lighter and less expensive lens.

    When I bought my Tokina, one of the deciding factors was low light performance, so the extra 2/3 of a stop is shooting speed was the key decision in buying that lens.
    Thanks so much Manfred.

    Price wise Nikkor 10-20mm is the cheapest. In case you think Nikkor 10-20is the one that I should opt for, should I go for the bundle deal with 40mm Dx Macro? It would cost me around 13k extra. I already have a Tamron 90mm Macro lens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CIC View Post
    Thanks so much Manfred.

    Price wise Nikkor 10-20mm is the cheapest. In case you think Nikkor 10-20is the one that I should opt for, should I go for the bundle deal with 40mm Dx Macro? It would cost me around 13k extra. I already have a Tamron 90mm Macro lens.
    Unfortunately, I cannot help you here as you know your needs and I don't.

    I'm not a macro shooter, but have done some macro work. I know some people like the shorter focal length macro lenses while others prefer longer ones so that they don't have to get in so close to their subject. The only macro lens I have used (on a full frame camera is the 105mm Nikkor, and it worked out for what I was trying to do.

    If you have a use for a 40mm macro, then it might make sense for you, but to spend the extra money on a lens the never gets used, it would not be a good investment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CIC View Post
    ... should I go for the bundle deal with 40mm Dx Macro? It would cost me around 13k extra. I already have a Tamron 90mm Macro lens.
    I have no experience with that particular 40mm Dx Macro but nevertheless I would advise against it. Shooting at 1:1 magnification, the front of the lens will be very close to the subject -maybe an inch or so. Your 90mm is a good focal length for normal macro work. As Manfred says, you would probable not use the 40mm.

    I've owned 50, 60, 70 and 105mm macros -all full frame size -and for my purposes the 70mm was about right, closely followed by the 105mm. The only macro I have now is the micro four-thirds Leica 45mm, equivalent to 90mm.
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