Replacement Monitor with MacBook Pro Retina 13" Mid 2014

[pedweld]

I am looking to replace my monitor. Planning to purchase the BenQ 27" that is so well recommended.

I worry that the graphics card in the MacBook can get full utilization of this monitor. Using it to edit photos in LR and PS. Not really interested in video game performance.

I have searched and did not find any old posts covering this topic. I look forward to some education.

[DanK]

I don't know about that graphics card, but I think there is a prior question. Do you mean the wide-gamut BenQ monitor? if so, do you print? The web standard is only sRGB, and many commercial printing labs accept only sRGB. If you aren't going to print yourself or use a lab that accepts wide-gamut files, you won't benefit from a wide-gamut monitor. You can buy high-quality sRGB monitors for considerably less.

[pedweld]

Thanks very much for your advice. I will do some soul searching on that. I enjoy printing my own, but I also often wonder if its worth the time/effort/additional cost of printing your own since there are a lot of really good quality labs available.

Useful information so thanks.

[Manfred M]

Thanks very much for your advice. I will do some soul searching on that. I enjoy printing my own, but I also often wonder if its worth the time/effort/additional cost of printing your own since there are a lot of really good quality labs available.

Useful information so thanks.

That really depends on what drives your photography. Both Dan and I are print makers and we enjoy creating our own.

"Custom labs" are often anything but what they claim to be and in most cases are little more than mass production printers that do little more than global adjustments to output an image. They also tend to have a very limited number of papers that they print on. The big ones tend to create limited life-span "C-prints" that might last a few decades before fading.

If you want to find a "true" custom printer; ask them what type of prep they do to your image. If they say they dodge and burn, they are likely a true custom printer.

If they say that a final proof is part of the service they offer, then they are likely a custom printer/

If they have a reasonable selection of archival papers and print using pigment inks, they are likely a custom printer.

[DanK]

Or to start even at a more basic level than Manfred's questions: ask whether they insist on files in sRGB format. Most of the not really custom labs do. I almost never use a lab, but one I occasionally use for things I can't do (e.g., metal prints) accepts Adobe RGB as well. That's rare. The one I have used for photo books accepts only sRGB. if you are going to have your images printed by a lab that accepts only sRGB, then you would be throwing money in the toilet buying a wide gamut monitor, since the entire reason to buy them is to display colors that are outside of the sRGB gamut. It would be worthwhile, however, to make sure that the monitor is capable of displaying virtually all of the sRGB gamut.

[xpatUSA]

I am looking to replace my monitor. Planning to purchase the BenQ 27" that is so well recommended.

I worry that the graphics card in the MacBook can get full utilization of this monitor. Using it to edit photos in LR and PS.<>

I have searched and did not find any old posts covering this topic. I look forward to some education.

Maybe I am missing something but with your Mac, are you not editing using a screen that uses the P3 color-space (not sRGB and not Adobe)? ***

https://www.color-management-guide.c...ay-review.html

DCI-P3 uses a pure 2.6 gamma curve, a white luminance of 48 cd/m², and a whitepoint with the same correlated daylight temperature as D63 but greener **. DCI-P3 has a 25% larger color gamut than sRGB

** it seems that Apple uses D65.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCI-P3...DCI-P3_D65.svg


So a question is what color space does the video output connector use? i.e. can it be connected to a non-P3 display? If not, I understand that Eizo makes P3-gamut monitors.

Pardon my ignorance of later model Macs - my long-dead Performer was replaced by a PC years ago.

*** a danger being that a colorful image edited to your satisfaction on the Retina display can suffer gamut-clipping when transformed to sRGB unless the ICC output profile truly provides perceptual rendition i.e. has CLUTs.

Meaning for example that, if you accidentally posted an image here with an embedded P3 monitor profile (type mntr), it could get gamut-clipped or look washed out on my system when it renders P3 as sRGB

Roll on Rec. 2020 on everything ...

[Manfred M]

Maybe I am missing something but with your Mac, are you not editing using a screen that uses the P3 color-space (not sRGB and not Adobe)? ***

https://www.color-management-guide.c...ay-review.html




** it seems that Apple uses D65.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCI-P3...DCI-P3_D65.svg


So a question is what color space does the video output connector use? i.e. can it be connected to a non-P3 display? If not, I understand that Eizo makes P3-gamut monitors.

Pardon my ignorance of later model Macs - my long-dead Performer was replaced by a PC years ago.

*** a danger being that a colorful image edited to your satisfaction on the Retina display can suffer gamut-clipping when transformed to sRGB unless the ICC output profile truly provides perceptual rendition i.e. has CLUTs.

Meaning for example that, if you accidentally posted an image here with an embedded P3 monitor profile (type mntr), it could get gamut-clipped or look washed out on my system when it renders P3 as sRGB

Roll on Rec. 2020 on everything ...

P3 is a good colour space for editing feature films that will be shown in movie theatres as the P3 colour space was developed to approximate the lamps used in digital movie projectors. 48 cd/sq m indicates that we are viewing it in a very dark room. At one time Apple owned around 80% of the video editing market with Final Cut Pro 7 and 8. They lost virtually all of it, mostly to Avid, when they brought out Final Cut Pro X, but their hardware is still used by a lot of the professional video editing market.

When it comes to photo editing, P3 is a wider gamut than sRGB, but not as wide as Adobe RGB (or ProPhoto RGB). It tends to be biased towards the yellows that are out of gamut for more common photo purposes, including high end inkjet photo printers.

Nicely said, no real issues if using the P3 colour space when working to a final sRGB output (colour space conversion before posting is necessary).

[madalyna]

The one I have used for photo books accepts only sRGB. if you are going to have your images printed by a lab that accepts only sRGB omegle-online.com