Canon paper ICC profiles and print proofing

[billtils]

I have uploaded the ICC profiles for almost all my print papers to my computer and use them with print proofing to choose the optimum paper when it comes to printing the target image.

However, it's "almost" because I can't do this for Canon papers - when I try I get the very unhelpful message that the profiles are built in to the printer.

Does anyone know how I can get them?

Backgroiund info: Canon Pixma 100S and CaptureOne Pro 21


TIA

[DanK]

My recollection is that they are installed automatically with the printer firmware. In Lightroom, if they don’t appear, you select “other” and check them on the drop down menus so that the will appear.


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[billtils]

Thanks Dan but unfortunately that does not answer my question as I am looking for stand-alone profiles to use in print proofing in CaptureOne before sending to the printer. I can do this with Permajet and Pinnacle papers but not with Canon ones.

[DanK]

I think I wasn't clear. The profile aren’t built into the printer. When you install the printer and firmware, the installation program installs the ICC profiles for Canon papers into the operating system without asking you whether you want them. They are regular ICC profiles that can be used just like any others, including for softproofing.

I know nothing about Capture One, but in the case of Adobe products, you have to tell the software which of the installed ICC profiles to show in the software. In LR, when you call up a profile, the last choice in the drop-down menu is "other". This brings up a box that shows every ICC profile installed on the computer, with a check box to the left of each. You have to check the ones you want to appear in the software's menu. Once you do that--for a Canon profile or any other--the profile shows up as a choice within the software. The profiles installed by the printer installation behave exactly like all of the other profiles I have in this respect.

I recently installed the Prograf 1000 on a laptop I normally don't use for editing as part of tracking down a printing problem. I only installed two profiles into Lightroom while running that test. I just looked, and when I go to "other" on that machine, all of the Canon profiles are there, just with the boxes unchecked.

I have had three Canon photo printer models-- 9000II, Pro-100, and Prograf 1000--and this has been the case with all of them. Canon's naming conventions vary across countries, but I think the Pro-100 I had was either the same as or a variant of the 100S you mentioned.

I believe you can download the profiles from the web as well, but I no longer recall where, and they have very cryptic names.

[billtils]

... The profile aren’t built into the printer. When you install the printer and firmware, the installation program installs the ICC profiles for Canon papers into the operating system without asking you whether you want them. They are regular ICC profiles that can be used just like any others, including for softproofing. ...

Bull's eye Dan!!! For historical reasons (all of which were determined by, shall we say,"Domestic" factors) the very large Canon 100S lives in a different room to the iMac I use for library management and editing. The profiles are indeed on the laptop that drives the printer but not on the iMac.

An easy fix - just hook up the iMac temporarily to the printer and all done!

Thanks for your input - much appreciated.

Bill

[DanK]

Glad it worked out.

Dan


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[Ken MT]

Where do you find print profiles in L/R?

[DanK]

Where do you find print profiles in L/R?

When soft proofing in the develop module, it will appear near the top of the softproofing panel that opens on the right side of the screen.

In the print module, it shows up in the bottom right panel, under "color management". Click on "managed by printer". The alternatives that pop up are the installed ICC profiles that you have told LR to recognize. Click on "other" to see the list of all profiles installed in the operating system, as explained above.

[Ken MT]

Great, thanks