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And of itself, this is yet another discussion arguably more off topic. (Absolutely no malice aforethought - I am simply taking Trev's point of view, which is off the topic to make my point of view, on this particular point which is also off the topic):
I've been a Member here for a long time, for a longer period a Member elsewhere and have been a Moderator at that Forum, for many years. (Stated for relevance)
At the other Forum, there's an history of adherence to a strict 'no off topic rule', here at CiC (in my memory) there never has been. Whilst there are arguments for both points of view, my observation is that enforcement of the adherence to a strict 'topic/title' conversation does little to forward quality discussion and, importantly, learning and creative thinking.
I don't worry too much about newbies reading this quality conversation and interpreting it is (our) the view that a $10000.00 Camera and $30000 in lenses is the answer for them to become proficient . . . there are plenty of half baked 'experts' on the www to tell them that, as a statement of fact, anyway.
Any newbie reading this thread - IF THEY TAKE THE TIME and MAKE THE EFFORT to READ the WORDS will understand that there are now three topics being discussed.
What I care about is that conversation and discussion is meaningful, thoughtful, respectful, and moves forward: and if it happens with twists and turn, I see no issue.
I read great conversation here - which, in a time of many web forums dying, is unique.
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