Video Editing

[rpcrowe]

I did the photo and video inventory of my daughters home with very few problems. I shot the video and edited two versions: one of 4.5 minutes and a shorter version of 1 minute 30 seconds which I edited on my iPhone using iMovie. It was pretty easy to do since iMovie is a very easy program to use. The rendering for even the four and a half minute version was reasonably fast.

I decided that I wanted a set up that I could use on my PC with video shot on my Sony mirrorless cameras. Unfortunately iMovie (as fa as I believe) available for a PC platform.

I first played with editing video using Photoshop CC. The interface is virtually the same as editing still images using Photoshop so it was a breeze to edit. The problem was that it takes an inordinate time to render even a very short 1080P video from the Photoshop platform. I use a Dell desktop with an i7-6700K CPU at 4.00GHz with 32.0 GB of RAM

I purchased a paid copy of VideoPad (there is a free copy available) and it seems to work quite well for me. It is like a simple Adobe Premier but, only costs $69 (USD). It really has a lot of capability yet, it is extremely intuitive (for me) to use...

[Manfred M]

Richard - I've been using Premiere (Pro) for well over 20 years but use it often enough to get value out of what I rent it for.

The "best" free editor on the market is BlackMagic Design's DaVinci Resolve. While there is a paid for version, the free version is rock solid and I believe it runs on both Windows and Mac platforms. It is published by the makers of the BlackMagic Design video cameras and is used in professionals for high end work as well as amateurs.

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/pro...avinciresolve/

[davidedric]

Yesterday, I had an email from Adobe telling me that from next week Premiere Rush will be included in my Photography Plan.

All getting a bit confusing - I already have Premiere Elements

[Geoff F]

I have tried Premiere Rush but didn't find it to be as good as the Photoshop basic video editor although maybe I haven't given it a fair try and possibly next week's offer might be better.

I tend to do basic video editing with Photoshop then save the clips for reassembly either with Photoshop or Rush although my favourite so far is Photodex Proshow which works with still photos or video clips; but that software isn't available now.

Rendering time is horrendous what ever I do. Start it running and do another job. Exporting the rendered clips, in a different format, for final assembly in Rush/Proshow means another round of rendering on the final output. Direct assembly in Photoshop can be the simplest but that only allows for very basic items such as transitions; although they are often adequate for many uses.

I see that with Manfred's free recommendation their editing keyboards are seriously expensive; but I assume basic keyboards would be acceptable for basic jobs.

This winter I ought to spend more time getting into video shooting and editing in greater detail.

[Manfred M]

I have tried Premiere Rush but didn't find it to be as good as the Photoshop basic video editor although maybe I haven't given it a fair try and possibly next week's offer might be better.

I tend to do basic video editing with Photoshop then save the clips for reassembly either with Photoshop or Rush although my favourite so far is Photodex Proshow which works with still photos or video clips; but that software isn't available now.

Rendering time is horrendous what ever I do. Start it running and do another job. Exporting the rendered clips, in a different format, for final assembly in Rush/Proshow means another round of rendering on the final output. Direct assembly in Photoshop can be the simplest but that only allows for very basic items such as transitions; although they are often adequate for many uses.

I see that with Manfred's free recommendation their editing keyboards are seriously expensive; but I assume basic keyboards would be acceptable for basic jobs.

This winter I ought to spend more time getting into video shooting and editing in greater detail.

Rendering video is one of the most processor / graphics processor intensive applications out there. These applications are ideal for massive multi-core / multi-threaded machines and were among the first applications that used multi-processing and GPU support. Older machines and ones with with limited processor cores will not work all that well here, especially for higher resolution output. HD will render around four times faster than 4K.

The consoles and advanced keyboards are targeted at the profession video production shops and they will speed up flow in the hands of experienced video and audio editors. Amateurs like myself will do find with regular keyboards.

[rpcrowe]

I have been astounded to find how much information there is on VideoPad editing software on the Internet.

NCH Software (the parent company of VideoPad) has
published a PDF manual. I printed out the 200+ page manual to have a hard copy reference. I will use it to take notes from some YouTube videos. I am of an age which makes it easier for me to work with hard copy reference materials.

I was interested in syncing two or more cameras, I found a YouTube video that synced using the old style clap board which seems pretty antiquated. It seems to me that technology should have evolved to the point where an electronic clapboard is a viable option. Or, am I asking for too much.

[tclune]

was interested in syncing two or more cameras, I found a YouTube video that synced using the old style clap board which seems pretty antiquated. It seems to me that technology should have evolved to the point where an electronic clapboard is a viable option. Or, am I asking for too much.

It's been a long time since I wrote real-time software. Back then, the biggest guidance in doing real-time was an old Yiddish saying, "A man with two watches never knows what time it is." The laws of physics haven't changed that much in the intervening years. You have two options -- slave both cameras to a single master clock or kludge a post facto synch.

[Manfred M]

All of the "formal" single camera video work had the sound either done in camera or used a separate recorded that had to be synched in pos. The traditional clapper that you describe. While there are electronic clappers, they are not inexpensive and do add value to feature feature film / television production where there are many scenes and multiple takes that have to be integrated in the editing process.

Multiple camera work is specialty work and I suspect Tom is bang on in what he writes. My "pro" video cameras could be electronically connected to synch, with the time code writing by the main camera to the secondary one. It is not something I have ever used.

[rpcrowe]

Thank you Manfred. I was just wondering if the state of the art had progressed far enough to circumvent the use of a physical clipboard. I don't personally need to do this but, as an example, I could see the need when shooting a nature sequence with two (or more) remote cameras when you cannot physically introduce a clapboard into the scene.

I am somewhat sorry that I dismissed video early in my digital photography shooting. I now find myself way behind in those skills.

[tclune]

Hi, Richard. Multicam Capture may be the kind of answer you are looking for. I have no personal experience with it, so this is not a recommendation, just a lead.

[Geoff F]

Just a little tale about 'How could I be so stupid'

A current project is to photograph the local fishing boats with a real photo plus some video of them under way and put it all together in a short video.

Shot some video with my 7D from a point at the harbour entrance and I thought I was doing well until after doing the editing I realised the sound recording option had been switched on. That camera embeds sound into the video instead of creating a separate sound layer. So all my video clips had poor quality noise of waves from the surrounding area and I can't remove it.

So I have had to return on several occasions to re record everything again. Still a couple of boats to record again.

I had switched off sound recording some time ago but then I sent the camera away for a recondition and it came back set to the default settings which meant sound recording was now live.

So that is another lesson learned the hard way.

[rpcrowe]

Premiere Rush... I like Premiere Rush for simple edits but, apparently, the free version included with the Adobe Photography Plan is designed for iPhones and iPads. When using Premiere Rush on a PC, you have a very limited export capability when using the free version. In order to get a more expanded version to allow more export capability, you need to subscribe to it.

I have been playing with VideoPad video editor and have selected the paid version after I tested the free version. The purchase of the paid version is a one time payment that is considerably less expensive than six month of subscription to Adobe Rush.

I printed a PDF version of the user manual for VideoPad and it has a very decent set of capabilities, it also has a large number of YouTube videos available on its uses.

[xpatUSA]

I use Premiere Pro and Photoshop for image and video editing. Since people now look for fancy and unique design elements, you can use these tools to offer quality image and video editing features. I am also working on my personal mobile application development project for travel photographers that will allow users to easily make changes and use various filters in the editing.

Looks like a commercial post, rather like #11 in this thread.

[revi]

So you quote the full post with the link. ermawinter must be happy for your efforts on their behalf