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    Two practical Calibrite /Pallette Master Element questions

    My Calibrite Display Pro arrived this week and I have attempted calibration of my BenQ SW monitor. Although I went through the user guides for the screen and software they seem insufficient for a novice like me. However, I found a very good brand specific guide (which also has a video version) at Image Science. Here is a link in case anyone alse is interested:

    https://imagescience.com.au/knowledg...aster-elements

    They have several other resources too.

    My screen is a BenQ SW270C and it came with a second generation Puck with several hotkeys. Three of them are numbered keys that have default settings which (so far as I know) I have not changed:

    #1 - Adobe RGB
    #2 - sRGB
    #3 - Black & White

    The defaults seemed logical and useful for me as I will not use Profoto or do any video editing.

    My calibration results for Adobe RGB were saved but when I pressed Hotkey #1 my screen changed to some other settings which it implemented. I had to calibrate the monitor again to obtain calibrated settings.

    At present therefore, my only use for the Puck is its pressable rotating dial that provides a more convenient means of accessing the on screen menu than using the buttons on the front of the monitor.

    So my questions are
    1. Is there a way to implement a saved calibration rather than recalibrating from scratch?
    2. What are the 3 hotkeys for if they don't provide a shortcut to my own calibration results/settings?

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    Re: Two practical Calibrite /Pallette Master Element questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus View Post

    So my questions are
    1. Is there a way to implement a saved calibration rather than recalibrating from scratch?
    2. What are the 3 hotkeys for if they don't provide a shortcut to my own calibration results/settings?
    1. Your saved calibration should be saved to the computer OS. It should be the default calibration whenever you turn it on.

    2. Your hotkeys will tell your display to use the default ARGB/sRGB/B&W settings. You generally should not need to use those. They do not reference your calibration.

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    Re: Two practical Calibrite /Pallette Master Element questions

    If your BenQ is like my NEC, the ARGB/ sRGB etc. settings are factory calibrations, and the manual warns the user not to use these for photo editing. They should be treated as approximations.

    Again, I don't know how the BenQ works, but the NEC calibration will automatically load when you boot whichever profile you have created and have used most recently. You can also call up the software and change among any of the profiles you have stored.

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    Re: Two practical Calibrite /Pallette Master Element questions

    David - the way my Benq works when I run Palette Master Elements, it saves the calibration data directly to the screen's LUT. Pushing the "puck" buttons does not impact the calibration. So far as I can tell, it restricts the output to either sRGB or B&W, but there is no information on the rendering intent used by the screen (I assume Relative Colorimetric). I never use that attachment.

    The advantage of using this solution is that the ONLY way that the calibration and profiling can change is when you re-run the program and redo the operation. You cannot make any changes to the profile via the operating system. This is a nice way of saying that once profiled and calibrated, that is how your screen loads up, regardless of the OS you are running.

    There is no way or no need to reload or redo the profile / calibration as your screen will display that way when it powers up. If you add your old LUT free screen, then your questions are valid.

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    Re: Two practical Calibrite /Pallette Master Element questions

    David, i used to calibrate my Previous monitors using a Spyder device and their associated software. When I changed to a BenQ SW monitor, I foolishly thought that I would continue to use my previous calibration methods. However the difference with the BenQ monitors is that the calibration using the BenQ Palette Master is a hardware calibration. With the resultant Hardware calibration being written to the monitor and not to the output of the graphics device of your PC/Mac.
    I found this YouTube persons videos to be very informative regarding using Palette Master to calibrate the BenQ SW monitors.

    Link follows:-
    https://youtu.be/wV_FGFrovDA


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    Re: Two practical Calibrite /Pallette Master Element questions

    Peter, Dan and Peter – Thank you for your contributions which set my conerns in a wider context for my consideration.

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    Re: Two practical Calibrite /Pallette Master Element questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred M View Post
    the way my Benq works when I run Palette Master Elements, it saves the calibration data directly to the screen's LUT. Pushing the "puck" buttons does not impact the calibration. So far as I can tell, it restricts the output to either sRGB or B&W, but there is no information on the rendering intent used by the screen (I assume Relative Colorimetric). I never use that attachment...

    The advantage of using this solution is that ...once profiled and calibrated, that is how your screen loads up, regardless of the OS you are running.
    Thank you, that reinforces my belief that the Puck is only of use if I wish to access the BenQ on screen menu. Having said that, if the calibration has been performed and saved, there should seldom be any need to access the on screen menu and I may as well put the Puck back in its box!

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    Re: Two practical Calibrite /Pallette Master Element questions

    I also have a Benq SW270C and some time after I calibrated it for the first time with the Palette Master software, the puck fell behind my desk where it has been gathering dust ever since. More seriously, I would very much recommend the YouTube channel that Peter linked to.

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    Re: Two practical Calibrite /Pallette Master Element questions

    Thank you, that reinforces my belief that the Puck is only of use if I wish to access the BenQ on screen menu. Having said that, if the calibration has been performed and saved, there should seldom be any need to access the on screen menu and I may as well put the Puck back in its box!
    My NEC wide-gamut monitor has no puck, but it has the same controls--factory presets for sRGB, Adobe RGB, etc.--built in. I don't think I've ever used them since calibrating my monitor.

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    Re: Two practical Calibrite /Pallette Master Element questions

    I use my puck to switch to B&W mode and back. It gives me a quick check on what a B&W image would look like without having to do a conversion; it's quite quick and easy to do.

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