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    Crossed hands

    The pianist from the group AMG at the Limoges Jazz festival

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    Re: Crossed hands

    I find this a really interesting and appealing image. The diagonal of the arm pointing toward the reflection makes for an excellent composition, IMHO. Kudos.

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    Re: Crossed hands

    I like the basic image, but find the reflections, especially the hands, are distractions that take away from the hands of the pianist.


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    Re: Crossed hands

    Well, these are two comments that you can't reconcile...

    I think this is vaguely like the distinction between a portrait and an environmental portrait. Is the subject hands, or hands playing the piano? It's all a matter of intent and taste. I still prefer the original. I find the hands in even more of the context more interesting, and it's a much more unusual composition.

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    Re: Crossed hands

    Quote Originally Posted by DanK View Post
    Well, these are two comments that you can't reconcile...

    I think this is vaguely like the distinction between a portrait and an environmental portrait. Is the subject hands, or hands playing the piano? It's all a matter of intent and taste. I still prefer the original. I find the hands in even more of the context more interesting, and it's a much more unusual composition.
    Personal taste, nothing more or less here.

    You find an aspect of the original composition interesting and I find that particular element results in a weaker composition because of how the reflection competes with the two "crossed hands".

    If I have time, I might go back to see if reducing the brightness of the reflection might be a way of better preserving the original composition.

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    Re: Crossed hands

    I like both, but although Manfred's edit is simpler and cleaner, in this case I prefer the original - it's just more interesting. Maybe get rid of the bright spot above the hand and just to the (screen) left of the hand though?.

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    Re: Crossed hands

    Thanks for your comments, I still prefer the original but I will remove that bright spot.

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    Re: Crossed hands

    I've gone back to this now that I am on a large, calibrated monitor. Even better larger. A few thoughts:

    There are a handful of very small white spots below the hands. They are very small, but I think it would be worth cloning them out.

    You have specular highlights on the piano far right. This may be in the original exposure, given how high the gloss is on many concert grands. However, it they aren't blown out in the original, you might want to mask them so that they don't blow out in processing.

    I tried brightening the reflection slightly. It's a bear to select. However, I think it might help to brighten this slightly for balance. I haven't played with it carefully, however.

    In any case, a great shot, well worth printing.

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    Re: Crossed hands

    Interesting... I've cleaned up the white spots and toned down the specular highlights as you suggested. It's not a huge difference, but worth doing as you say.

    Regarding brightening the reflection - I've tried it, but I think I prefer the original. Just in passing, I made the selection in seconds - a rough brush selection with a bit of overlap to make sure nothing was missed, then, because it's out of almost pure black, intersect that with a luminosity mask. All done !

    Thanks for the suggestions.

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    Re: Crossed hands

    Quote Originally Posted by Chataignier View Post
    Interesting... I've cleaned up the white spots and toned down the specular highlights as you suggested. It's not a huge difference, but worth doing as you say.

    Regarding brightening the reflection - I've tried it, but I think I prefer the original. Just in passing, I made the selection in seconds - a rough brush selection with a bit of overlap to make sure nothing was missed, then, because it's out of almost pure black, intersect that with a luminosity mask. All done !

    Thanks for the suggestions.
    Thanks for the pointer about selection. I should have thought of a luminosity mask.

    Did you do this in Lightroom? It has the ability to intersect masks directly. I've never done it in Photoshop, but I think it could be done with masks on two adjacent layers.

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