3 Roses and a book.

**jiro** · 25th January 2011, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisC

Great...we are not shooting RAW at this time because of editing limitations. I am trying to get the district to set up my classroom in the last edition of Photoshop which still uses 32 bit imaging. Even so, there are enough tools using jpegs to get decent imagery from what they shoot. Tomorrow, one of my students is going to post his "Black on Black" assignment which I think he did pretty well considering he had to shoot digital, and stay in color. Four different shades of black set in a black background environment...and then do the same with white.

Wow, I think your students are being challenged a lot.

I hope you're generous on the grades.

**MiniChris** · 25th January 2011, 09:24 PM

I'm reasonable.

**jiro** · 25th January 2011, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisC

I'm reasonable.

That's good. Most of the teachers I had during college are not that reasonable.

**MiniChris** · 25th January 2011, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by jiro

That's good. Most of the teachers I had during college are not that reasonable.

Reasonable is always a relative term...good work in, good grade out...lacksidasical effort gets squat....and that's reasonable.

**jeeperman** · 26th January 2011, 12:00 AM

Jiro, I am right there with you as for set up. lol It looks nearly exact to what I have been playing with. I like seeing your good results coming from this on a regular basis. Mine are still somewhat more speratic but getting more consistent. Thanks, it is not only Chris's students you are helping.

**jiro** · 26th January 2011, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by jeeperman

Jiro, I am right there with you as for set up. lol It looks nearly exact to what I have been playing with. I like seeing your good results coming from this on a regular basis. Mine are still somewhat more speratic but getting more consistent. Thanks, it is not only Chris's students you are helping.

Thanks, guys. I'm really happy that I could be of help to the community. Much the same way, I am learning a lot just by looking at the work of some of our members here. Cheers!

**wallyjs** · 26th January 2011, 12:57 AM

Jiro....you have a remarkable ability to improvise and shoot beautiful photos with available equipment. You certainly are gifted in that area. I just keep looking at that photo as it is exceptional in composition and keeps drawing me into the scene.

**jiro** · 26th January 2011, 01:34 AM

Originally Posted by wallyjs

Jiro....you have a remarkable ability to improvise and shoot beautiful photos with available equipment. You certainly are gifted in that area. I just keep looking at that photo as it is exceptional in composition and keeps drawing me into the scene.

Thank you very much Walt for that warm comment. I really appreciate what you have said. Thanks.

**PopsPhotos** · 26th January 2011, 02:35 AM

I picked up a couple of elbow desk lamps from the thrift shops and fitted them with 13 Watt (60 watt equivalent) daylight flourescent bulbs. These work quite well in a similar environment. I think I might have a whole $20 involved. The primary reason I chose those lamps is that they are so much easier to take to class than regular table lamps.

Pops

**jiro** · 26th January 2011, 02:38 AM

Originally Posted by PopsPhotos

I picked up a couple of elbow desk lamps from the thrift shops and fitted them with 13 Watt (60 watt equivalent) daylight flourescent bulbs. These work quite well in a similar environment. I think I might have a whole $20 involved. The primary reason I chose those lamps is that they are so much easier to take to class than regular table lamps.

Pops

That's great Pops! Are you also teaching photography like Chris does? I saw those daylight balanced flourescent bulbs at walmart. Must be a good one to try for the next experiment, too.

**PopsPhotos** · 26th January 2011, 02:45 AM

Not at all as does ChrisC. I teach one or two hour classes a week as a volunteer for the local Home School Association. I also have the occassional private student. Chris is stuck with his monst ... uhhhh ... students every day.

I enjoy teaching and I enjoy interacting with the kids. I'll continue as long as they have students for me.

Pops

**jiro** · 26th January 2011, 02:49 AM

That's great, Pops. My respect to people like you doing volunteer work for others. I'm pretty sure these guys really appreciate your effort a lot. Who knows, maybe one among them can become great in the future.

**jeeperman** · 26th January 2011, 03:06 AM

Jiro, about those daylight bulbs....I am a vintage/antique marble collector and taking photos of the marbles requires quite a bit of light. I use the daylight corrected bulbs and have come to find out they are not all created equal. Between brands they will through the white balance off in different directions. I found the easiest to work with for my sittuation were the lights made by Reveal. They are relatively cheap and are standard bulb construction. If you use the energy saver type {coiled} be sure to let them warm up...the get brighter as time passes.

**jiro** · 26th January 2011, 03:13 AM

Paul, that's exactly the brand that I saw at Walmart yesterday. I might pick up 2 tomorrow. Thanks!

**PopsPhotos** · 26th January 2011, 03:29 AM

Originally Posted by jeeperman

Jiro, about those daylight bulbs....I am a vintage/antique marble collector and taking photos of the marbles requires quite a bit of light. I use the daylight corrected bulbs and have come to find out they are not all created equal. Between brands they will through the white balance off in different directions. I found the easiest to work with for my sittuation were the lights made by Reveal. They are relatively cheap and are standard bulb construction. If you use the energy saver type {coiled} be sure to let them warm up...the get brighter as time passes.

That is good to know, Paul. I went to the paint shop and elbowed a number of professional painters to ask which they preferred of the brands offered there. I bought a pack of Westpointe bulbs. I will try the Reveal bulbs next.

Pops

**jeeperman** · 26th January 2011, 03:56 AM

No worries Pops, there were others that may have been slightly cleaner light but most caused to big a sway towards blue. The reveal are close to true daylight but perhaps slightly warmer. I just found them much easier to compensate for if need be.

**PopsPhotos** · 26th January 2011, 04:40 AM

I paid almost $20 for a pack of 4 Westpointe. I suspect the Reveal might be a bit cheaper. Having heard that the Reveal work well, I shall give them a try. It seems that we lose one bulb per semester, due to the inevitable "OOOOOPS!"

Pops

**Richard Donham** · 26th January 2011, 04:46 AM

Jiro-I really appreciated seeing how you set up your lighting and the subject. If Ansel Adams is that inspiring, I think I better get a copy and study it hard.

**Klickit** · 26th January 2011, 06:21 AM

Thanks for showing this, Jiro. You have very ably demonstrated that it is perfectly feasible to take excellent images with absolutely basic equipment. Your pp skill certainly brings out a beautifully balanced black & white image.

**Skitalez** · 26th January 2011, 08:28 AM

Jiro, and why this book? It will not be better also pathos, something more ancient, Gothic, antiquarian, written by a hand and a feather?

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