NON Square Cropped Portraits - (nSCP's) - Archive

[KentDub]

It's in sRBG. The issue is IE (8 here) dosn't apply the monitors ICC profile. If you save it to your desktop and open (even with the windows image viewer) it, then it looks correct (Windows Vista/7 are color-managed operating systems).

The reason the image looks dark is because of two things. 1. I didn't brighten it nearly as much as the two of you did -- I wanted to preserve the shadow on the right side of the face and not blow the left side. 2. My monitor is a "Super-bright" LCD, not ideal for photo editing because things appear brighter than they are.

As far as calibration - my monitor is as close as it can get - I'm pretty particular about it. I don't have custom ICC profiles for it though ;(

Thanks for the compliments!

[Colin Southern]

It's in sRBG. The issue is IE (8 here) dosn't apply the monitors ICC profile.

That's the trick - if you get the calibration spot on then the profile doesn't have to do much ("anything"), and if the profile doesn't have to do anything then it doesn't matter if programs use it or not; thus - so long as images are untagged or tagged sRGB they display correctly in an unmanaged environment (monitors are basically sRGB devices, and untagged or sRGB tagged images are treates as sRGB by default, thus if the monitor is behaving itself and adhering to the sRGB specification then uncolourmanaged items still display relatively correctly.

Regardless of whether the application is colour-managed or not though, the operating system still applied the default icc display profile to "baseline" the display sub-system.

For what it's worth, I like bright monitors - I run mine at 200 cd/m2.

[KentDub]

Yeah I like superbrights too. 500 cd/m2 here. The monitor is calibrated using a standard color bar image to display the maximum dynamic range it is capable of. If I reduce the brightness to make it more "accurate" then I lose out on dynamic range

The difference isn't as drastic as dog #%$, but I was a bit dissapointed when I had them side by side.

Monitor: http://www.viewsonic.com/products/de...s/vx2835wm.htm

Well I'm off for a bit. Going to try and get some night shots

[Colin Southern]

The monitor is calibrated using a standard color bar image to display the maximum dynamic range it is capable of. If I reduce the brightness to make it more "accurate" then I lose out on dynamic range

You'll probably find that it doesn't make a lot of difference to the DR; the crystals can only block so much light -- so the brighter the whites, the brighter the blacks, and you usually don't get much more than about 6 stops of range.

[KentDub]

You'll probably find that it doesn't make a lot of difference to the DR; the crystals can only block so much light -- so the brighter the whites, the brighter the blacks, and you usually don't get much more than about 6 stops of range.

I gave it a try. If I darken it up any then my 10% black turns into pure black

[Colin Southern]

I gave it a try. If I darken it up any then my 10% black turns into pure black

Sounds like you need a hardware calibration device.

[Karlos Markus]

Reading the wind: Parallel to the horizon.

[KentDub]

Hi Karlos,
Great image! Try sharpening the face up a bit and adding some fill light. The hat and hair are dropping to pure black on my monitor.

[Dave Humphries]

Try sharpening the face up a bit and adding some fill light. The hat and hair are dropping to pure black on my monitor.

I can see detail in the hat and hair, but maybe having the image inline now helps.

Good picture Karlos, I have one small suggestion; to trim a little (<5%) off the right hand side.

Regards,

[Antonio Correia]

Hello Carlos.

Obrigado por colocar aqui uma foto.

I agree with Dave when he suggests you should trim a bit on the right side of the image.

I also suggest that you try to darken a bit the background of the picture.

I am sure you had some large reflective surface on back of you and that can be seen on the young man's face.

The hat and hair in my monitor are too dark but that maybe a problem with my computer.

E venham mais...

[KentDub]

Hey Carlos what do you think of this (Combination of suggestions from everyone)?



I also took some of the red out of the skin too

[Karlos Markus]

Hi KentDub, Dave Humphries,and Antonio Correia,

Thank you all for your valuable suggestions. They are all on the mark. I appreciate all of your inputs, especially coming from people on the CiC forum. I didn’t know what to expect. I am new at showing photos online and besides these here, I only have put about a half a dozen recently on another site, but I have examined carefully many photos on CiC and have read a lot of the commentary and tutorials here for some weeks already.

I debated myself about darkening the background and cropping a little on the left side. But in the end I left it as it is, after darkening the background just a little. The photo was taken on a boat under a late summer sun and I decided to keep it strong, forcing one almost to squint (like the subject in the photo) under the ambient luminosity. It was not the best choice in a photographic sense, but I wanted to preserve the atmosphere.

Antonio, how did you know that I was born in Portugal? I left just after high school, and lived in Belgium, Amsterdam, and Ibiza before settling in NYC ages ago.

[Antonio Correia]

... Antonio, how did you know that I was born in Portugal? I left just after high school, and lived in Belgium, Amsterdam, and Ibiza before settling in NYC ages ago.

Hello Carlos.

It was a guess. Your name is Carlos Marques as I have seen in your mail.

I don't know if such a name exists in the Spanish language and I decided to make a guess. And bingo you were also born in this rectangle.

You gave me a clue when you confirmed the Portuguese origins of Menino (the Boston politian Alis photographed the other day) and you thanked in Portuguese.

And... as there are Portuguese all over the World ...

Quick and simple. And welcome to this forum. It is a nice place to be and learn.

I am sure your cooperation in "my threads" will be a valuable one.

8 posts for the time being is nothing. I hope you come here over and over.

Saúde ! (Health in Portuguese)

[Antonio Correia]

This time an old portrait more than 50 years old.

Shot by my father with his (now mine) Rolleicord 6*6

[Alis]

I shot this one today while the CPL filter was on the lens from yesterday's outdoor shooting. I may be biased but I think the pictures looks much more crisp and alive than the shots without the filter. Gary Fong diffuser was used for lighting which is what I have been using for a while (also I have done minimal processing, basically out of camera, standard sharpening and added the frame):

[Colin Southern]

I shot this one today while the CPL filter was on the lens from yesterday's outdoor shooting. I may be biased but I think the pictures looks much more crisp and alive than the shots without the filter. Gary Fong diffuser was used for lighting which is what I have been using for a while (also I have done minimal processing, basically out of camera, standard sharpening and added the frame):

Hi Ali - why not do a side-by-side test and show us the results?

[Alis]

Hi Ali - why not do a side-by-side test and show us the results?

Good idea, Colin. I will have to see if I get a chance to do that this afternoon. With a mountain or lake, it is easy but with a moving target it may not be. We will see...

[Antonio Correia]

Good idea, Colin. I will have to see if I get a chance to do that this afternoon. With a mountain or lake, it is easy but with a moving target it may not be. We will see...

My time to write is short now but 1.st the photo is great and 2.ed I have seen that the use of a CPL (or CPF I suppose) returns better results in terms of color saturation even when such a filter is not necessary.

However, I have never done any systematic experience. I should have, yes, but unfortunately ...

Take care.

[Alis]

My time to write is short now but 1.st the photo is great and 2.ed I have seen that the use of a CPL (or CPF I suppose) returns better results in terms of color saturation even when such a filter is not necessary.

However, I have never done any systematic experience. I should have, yes, but unfortunately ...

Take care.

Thanks, Antonio!

I thought theoretically it is possible that because the filter prevents all those "other rays of light" to enter the camera and by doing that it increases contrast and overall the picture looks nicer. However, I am not at a position to speculate about these technical issues. The best way is to compare two pictures and see if it actually makes a significant difference that I can notice.

[Alis]